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re: FALL CAMP: OVER. GAME WEEK.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:01 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:01 am to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:14 am to TailbackU
It boils down to wanting a coach that does everything Harsin is talking about and also actually winning because of it. Like many here have described, I love hearing these quotes about the focus on detail, culture, discipline, etc. But I really hope it actually translates to wins.
I would also caution against assuming Gus didn't teach anything. It certainly appears like our players really are having to start from scratch, but it's hard to really know what Harsin's definition of "football 101" is vs Gus's "football 101" was without being out there on the field.
From my perspective, it seems entirely plausible that Gus implemented a used-to-be-successful offensive system that was as simple as he could possibly construct so his players' learning curve wasn't as steep. This means he got the success we saw in '10, '13, and '17 but his players don't appear to be "excelling" at the next level, at least in terms of knowing the game. (I know there are outliers...) I hope this isn't the case, but that's absolutely what it looks like.
If Harsin can both prepare these kids for the next level and get wins on the board - we could be in for a great Auburn football era. If the kids are prepared for the next level because they "know what's going on" but can't execute, that's going to be a serious disappointment.
tl;dr - have no idea what's going to happen.
I would also caution against assuming Gus didn't teach anything. It certainly appears like our players really are having to start from scratch, but it's hard to really know what Harsin's definition of "football 101" is vs Gus's "football 101" was without being out there on the field.
From my perspective, it seems entirely plausible that Gus implemented a used-to-be-successful offensive system that was as simple as he could possibly construct so his players' learning curve wasn't as steep. This means he got the success we saw in '10, '13, and '17 but his players don't appear to be "excelling" at the next level, at least in terms of knowing the game. (I know there are outliers...) I hope this isn't the case, but that's absolutely what it looks like.
If Harsin can both prepare these kids for the next level and get wins on the board - we could be in for a great Auburn football era. If the kids are prepared for the next level because they "know what's going on" but can't execute, that's going to be a serious disappointment.
tl;dr - have no idea what's going to happen.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:23 am to Niner
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But I really hope it actually translates to wins.
What? Frick that dude, just talk is all we are looking for now man.
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I would also caution against assuming Gus didn't teach anything
It's like we don't have any history to make an assumption or something.
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used-to-be-successful offensive system that was as simple as he could possibly construct so his players' learning curve wasn't as steep. This means he got the success we saw in '10, '13, and '17 but his players don't appear to be "excelling" at the next level, at least in terms of knowing the game.
And then you offer this ignoring your very own caution.
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"know what's going on" but can't execute
This is highly improbable. If you combine talent, hard work, knowledge, and well coached you will get execution.
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have no idea what's going to happen.
15-0 Ship!
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:57 am to Niner
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From my perspective, it seems entirely plausible that Gus implemented a used-to-be-successful offensive system that was as simple as he could possibly construct so his players' learning curve wasn't as steep.
It is why he is so good in his first year or two. The offense is very easy to pick up and when you run it against teams that aren't used to seeing it, it can cause some confusion and get you chunk plays. When the chunk plays go away, the offense is done.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:03 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Tyrone Truesdale has entered the transfer portal. Doesn’t sound like it was his choice.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:25 am to TTsTowel
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Tyrone Truesdale has entered the transfer portal. Doesn’t sound like it was his choice.
You may be right
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:27 am to TTsTowel
Very interesting. Maybe transferring to be closer to home?
Or there were issues. Who knows. Stinks for our depth.
Or there were issues. Who knows. Stinks for our depth.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:28 am to TTsTowel
I can sleep at night knowing 9 TFL in 4 seasons means it wasn't a big loss, and 22* total tackles with only 11 of them solo for his last season.
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:28 am to TTsTowel
Gonna be running a 2-5-4 defense this year with the lack of Dlinemen lol
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 9:37 am to jvilletiger25
Speaking of Tackles, the guy with the most tackles % we face is from Akron Bubba Arslanian
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:44 am to jvilletiger25
Who was the DT that got hurt in spring? Will he be back at all?
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:45 am to blzr
Wright. Haven’t heard anything recently.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 10:47 am to AA7
Yea i'm hoping he will be back, just for his size. He is a big dude.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:25 am to TailbackU
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The “football 101” statement was really telling.
Yeah that stood out to me as well. I realize there will be some sort of learning curve with a new staff coming in, no matter what. But with the football experience this team has coming back, there is really no reason to be having to teach "football 101" at this point.
Really frustrating that the old staff left the program in that state.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 11:36 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Yea i'm hoping he will be back, just for his size. He is a big dude.
Wright probably can't be back this year, since he tore his ACL in the spring, and wouldn't seem likely he is ready even before the season is over.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:34 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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It's like we don't have any history to make an assumption or something.
Valid...I was trying to give Gus the benefit of the doubt damnit...
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And then you offer this ignoring your very own caution.
Again - while I would caution making assumptions - I, myself, am making said assumption.
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This is highly improbable. If you combine talent, hard work, knowledge, and well coached you will get execution.
You added hard work and talent in there...if we can't recruit kids with talent and a willingness to work hard, it doesn't matter how much they know about the game of football or how well they are coached - they won't be able to execute.
Of course there is some correlation between hard mental (knowing/studying the game and your role) and hard physical (kicking your own arse on the field and in the weight room) work.
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15-0 Ship!
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:50 pm to Niner
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From my perspective, it seems entirely plausible that Gus implemented a used-to-be-successful offensive system that was as simple as he could possibly construct so his players' learning curve wasn't as steep.
That's exactly what he did. Gus didn't want players having to think and wanted coaches to make all of the on field decisions. Gus wanted it to be as simple as possible to take pressure off the players. If a play needed to be changed at the LoS, Gus had his players look over at the sidelines. It's a different kind of philosophy and I kinda understand where he's coming from.
Harsin wants the opposite. He wants his QB making his own audibles. He wants his players understanding exactly why the defense is doing what it's doing and how to attack it. Harsin basically wants his team to operate like a pro team. This is a different philosophy from Gus.
I don't think one is better than the other, it just comes down to execution and recruiting.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:13 pm to AUstar
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AUstar
Like so much besides the defense. He had to do it all much like the indispensable man and that was a large part of what the HUNH was. Were it was hiding or glossing over players making any call. He could just say do it again, over and over, and many didn't now why or when they should be wary. The next three calls were already predetermined and yes it involved playing percentages and trying to set up a scheme. But he was reading the defenses and then you'd see him get crazy animated.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 5:59 pm to awestruck
Have we heard anything on JJ Pegues?
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