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Which coach would you take right now?
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:18 pm
If your program had to get a new head coach next season for whatever reason, which route would you want them to go?
A. Offensive guru with an emphasis on high powered offense
B. Defensive guru with an emphasis on controlling the clock and elite defense
C. Position/ST coach with emphasis on being a program manager over a specific side of the ball.
Say they all have similar experience and qualifications for the job. Which do you want leading your program?
A. Offensive guru with an emphasis on high powered offense
B. Defensive guru with an emphasis on controlling the clock and elite defense
C. Position/ST coach with emphasis on being a program manager over a specific side of the ball.
Say they all have similar experience and qualifications for the job. Which do you want leading your program?
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Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:19 pm to Gatorbait2008
These days you have to go with offense.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:20 pm to Gatorbait2008
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A. Offensive guru with an emphasis on high powered offense
But one who really knows how to coach offense
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:21 pm to Gatorbait2008
Great defenses are now completely irrelevant. A real offensive guru is worth significantly more
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:26 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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Great defenses are now completely irrelevant. A real offensive guru is worth significantly more
Yeah, tell that to OU fans every year when they dominate the Big 12 then go play an SEC defense in the playoffs and get destroyed.
I'm taking defense.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:27 pm to Gatorbait2008
(A) sounds like a no-brainer, but HCs like Mullen who can maintain firm control of the offense and be successful with the other aspects of running a program are rare imo. Look at what happened with Sarkisian at USC/Washington and Kiffin at USC
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:29 pm to DuckTalesLOL
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Yeah, tell that to OU fans every year when they dominate the SEC then go play an SEC defense in the playoffs and get destroyed.
I'm taking defense.
Kirby and what is considered by far the consensus #1 defense just got boatraced by Alabama’s offense. Obviously fielding a HS level defense will frick you over
All things considered equal, offense > defense.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:30 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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These days you have to go with offense.
Nick Saban-Defense
Drinkwitz-Offense and who won the game? Alabama!
I know Nick has the edge with recruiting. But look what he have done all those years!
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:40 pm to Gatorbait2008
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A. Offensive guru with an emphasis on high powered offense
B. Defensive guru with an emphasis on controlling the clock and elite defense
C. Position/ST coach with emphasis on being a program manager over a specific side of the ball.
Say they all have similar experience and qualifications for the job. Which do you want leading your program?
Whoever is the best recruiter.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:43 pm to sand mountainDvalues
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Yeah, tell that to OU fans every year when they dominate the SEC then go play an SEC defense in the playoffs and get destroyed.
I'm taking defense.
Kirby and what is considered by far the consensus #1 defense just got boatraced by Alabama’s offense. Obviously fielding a HS level defense will frick you over
All things considered equal, offense > defense.
Nick is not an offensive HC! He is a defensive HC! Also need to hire a good OC. Also need to be a good recruiter.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:54 pm to Gatorbait2008
C - the only option associated with winning a championship the last 2 years in a row.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 10:55 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:56 pm to Gatorbait2008
The answer is obv Pittman
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:56 pm to Gatorbait2008
B
You don't have to control the clock, but you do need to give your defense some breaks. If you have a good defense, then you'll always have a chance. You don't need the best offense, but just one that's competent.
What has gotten lost in the SEC shuffle from great defense to great offense is that our defenses have been going downhill for many years. Now it's reached historically low levels and everyone is acting like it happened over night.
Also, you can win SEC championships with a bad offense (LSU 2011), but you can't with a bad defense.
You don't have to control the clock, but you do need to give your defense some breaks. If you have a good defense, then you'll always have a chance. You don't need the best offense, but just one that's competent.
What has gotten lost in the SEC shuffle from great defense to great offense is that our defenses have been going downhill for many years. Now it's reached historically low levels and everyone is acting like it happened over night.
Also, you can win SEC championships with a bad offense (LSU 2011), but you can't with a bad defense.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:58 pm to Gatorbait2008
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A. Offensive guru with an emphasis on high powered offense
B. Defensive guru with an emphasis on controlling the clock and elite defense C. Position/ST coach with emphasis on being a program manager over a specific side of the ball.
I kindof like what we got...But every program is different
Posted on 10/19/20 at 10:59 pm to Gatorbait2008
Defense is not outdated and never will be. Once d.cs are able to stop the current system with faster players, the offense will adapt and run power running style. The lack of spring and summer programs have devastated the D. I doubt the 2020 effect will continue to last. Don't let the recency bias blind you. 2014 OSU won with power, 2015 Alabama won with Henry. Without Clemson's defense in 2016, and 2018 they don't win. Even UGA-Bama this year would look like a completely different game without the interceptions/Alabama's run d.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 6:46 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:03 pm to sand mountainDvalues
Extremely relevant but possibly great is not necessary if serviceable or above average. LSU proved this last season. However, I think they're an exception. Just about any other NC before them had a great defense. There's a bunch of losers scoring plenty of points to win football games.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:04 pm to Gatorbait2008
Lots of missing factors. Are we assuming the other side of the ball coordinator is at least good? Are they both similar recruiters?
Last few NCs have been won by top notch recruiters with an elite OC/DC
Last few NCs have been won by top notch recruiters with an elite OC/DC
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:05 pm to Capstone2017
I agree in the defense...but what I think is that most DC’s don’t have enough Barry Odom in them...he is truly the only chess player in the league.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:05 pm to Capstone2017
You have to be able to get some stops no matter what route you go but I do remember a awesome defense that played Clemson in Arizona and it still took a KO return and an insides kick to secure that game and the title that night. Bama could not stop Watson that night and that was one of the best Bama defensive teams of all time.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 11:17 pm to Capstone2017
Game changed when 6’4 kids that realized they couldn’t shoot from outside decided to go catch the football was a better choice.
But your right. Clemson got just enough stops in 2016 and 2018 it wasn’t the 44 points that won it was only giving up 16. Its not about shut outs or yards per game anymore. It’s about being good enough on defense to get just enough stops or stops at critical moments of the game.Making a team kick FG’s instead of giving up TD’s
But your right. Clemson got just enough stops in 2016 and 2018 it wasn’t the 44 points that won it was only giving up 16. Its not about shut outs or yards per game anymore. It’s about being good enough on defense to get just enough stops or stops at critical moments of the game.Making a team kick FG’s instead of giving up TD’s
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 11:18 pm
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