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re: More pressure on smart to beat Bama or Mullen to beat UGA
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:06 pm to GaryGator
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:06 pm to GaryGator
A National Championship season is a perfect storm.
Seems weird that people seem so gung-ho certain that Kirby will never win won when we were an ants nut hair away from winning one just 2 years ago.
I will admit I think the pressure is growing for Kirby. The great news is when he pushed Coley out the door he showed he wasn’t complacent a la Richt.
Seems weird that people seem so gung-ho certain that Kirby will never win won when we were an ants nut hair away from winning one just 2 years ago.
I will admit I think the pressure is growing for Kirby. The great news is when he pushed Coley out the door he showed he wasn’t complacent a la Richt.
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Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:14 pm to MikkUGA
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Oddly enough Kirby has won the East at Georgia as many times as Tennessee has in the last 20 years.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:18 pm to dhuck20
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The great news is when he pushed Coley out the door he showed he wasn’t complacent a la Richt.
And replaced him with a reject O.C. from arguably the 2 worst NFL franchises. The Browns and the Bucs.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:24 pm to dhuck20
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A National Championship season is a perfect storm.
Seems weird that people seem so gung-ho certain that Kirby will never win won when we were an ants nut hair away from winning one just 2 years ago.
bullshite excuses, but at least you tried.
Uga hasn't won a national championship in any of the 3 major men's sports in over 30 years. That's ridiculous for a university with uga's resources. Admit it, you're a fan of the most underachieving sports program in the entire country.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:28 pm to dhuck20
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Seems weird that people seem so gung-ho certain that Kirby will never win won when we were an ants nut hair away from winning one just 2 years ago
You don't get credit for being super, uber close to winning the CFP Championship, you either win or you don't
Being super close only means more pain for your fanbase
For a Program that has "1980" as a rallying cry, an Ant's nut hair might as well be the Grand fvcking Canyon
Again
1980
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:29 pm to GaryGator
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bullshite excuses, but at least you tried.
Come on man. You damn well it takes some luck to win it all.
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Uga hasn't won a national championship in any of the 3 major men's sports in over 30 years. That's ridiculous for a university with uga's resources. Admit it, you're a fan of the most underachieving sports program in the entire country.
We have had the cheapest freaking athletic department ever since Dooley handed it over. Once Kirby was hired they started spending more on football but we still don't spend the money that championship programs should on the other two sports.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
So UGA is just unlucky, in all 3 major men's sports. Got it.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:49 pm to 3morereps
Smart to beat bama for sure. This is smarts fifth season there and he's only won one sec title. When he gets his arse schooled by saban and bama this year, fans are going to be pissed. Then, Florida is gonna kick their arse too and maybe Auburn. Smart is running out of time there and the newness is wearing off. He has blown his opportunity to take advantage of the weak sec east while Florida and Tennessee were both down, and now it's going to be much more difficult for them to win the east, much less the conference and the natty. Uga is fricked sideways.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 3:51 pm to GaryGator
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So UGA is just unlucky, in all 3 major men's sports. Got it.
Baseball had some bad luck in 2008
Football had some in with the Shockley injury, the tipped pass in 2012, and 2-26 pass in 17.
Basketball we just flat out suck and the admin team refuses to step up and make it a contender although at least hiring a big name coach in Crean is a step in the right direction.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:04 pm to 3morereps
The pressure is on both programs in the next 3-4 years. After 2 full recruiting periods, you know what you’re getting.
It’s looking like Kirby is going to average out 12 win seasons and there’s a ton of pressure for him to get 1 title in the next 4 years with the level of recruiting sky rocketing to something Georgia has never had. The jury is still out on Kirby going into his 5th year with in game coaching Miscues and bad decisions but going 36-7 in 3 years is 4th best in the country and far superior than any 3 year stretch Richt had.
Despite what the geniuses on this site say, Mullen looks more like Richt than Kirby to me. Especially early Richt. 2002 - 2005 Richt constantly squeaked our wins against inferior teams, lost the “big” regular season game every year, then would show glaring deficiencies in important games with way more talent but would squeak out a win. Other than the Sugar Bowl victory in 2002, Richt barely beat 9-3 Purdue and Wisconsin level teams in bowls by 3-7 points. Winning helps ppl forget about the problems we had putting away a way less talented team but it proved to be Richt’s undoing down the line.
Mullen looks eerily similar to me. Finishing with good (10, 11 win) seasons like Richt. Squeeking by a vastly inferior Virginia in the bowl game that had no business being on the same field with Florida athletes. Mullen has beaten one SEC team that finished with a top 15 ranking in the last 2 seasons and it was 2018 LSU in the Swamp.
For all the flack Kirby gets about losing to Bama, they were in Championship games. Mullen seems to have an issue with big regular season games, very similar to Richt. Mullen is 2-33 all time against teams that finish with 3 losses or less. So the word is still out on if Kirby can get over the hump. But I think Mullen has a clear ceiling if you just look at raw data.
It’s looking like Kirby is going to average out 12 win seasons and there’s a ton of pressure for him to get 1 title in the next 4 years with the level of recruiting sky rocketing to something Georgia has never had. The jury is still out on Kirby going into his 5th year with in game coaching Miscues and bad decisions but going 36-7 in 3 years is 4th best in the country and far superior than any 3 year stretch Richt had.
Despite what the geniuses on this site say, Mullen looks more like Richt than Kirby to me. Especially early Richt. 2002 - 2005 Richt constantly squeaked our wins against inferior teams, lost the “big” regular season game every year, then would show glaring deficiencies in important games with way more talent but would squeak out a win. Other than the Sugar Bowl victory in 2002, Richt barely beat 9-3 Purdue and Wisconsin level teams in bowls by 3-7 points. Winning helps ppl forget about the problems we had putting away a way less talented team but it proved to be Richt’s undoing down the line.
Mullen looks eerily similar to me. Finishing with good (10, 11 win) seasons like Richt. Squeeking by a vastly inferior Virginia in the bowl game that had no business being on the same field with Florida athletes. Mullen has beaten one SEC team that finished with a top 15 ranking in the last 2 seasons and it was 2018 LSU in the Swamp.
For all the flack Kirby gets about losing to Bama, they were in Championship games. Mullen seems to have an issue with big regular season games, very similar to Richt. Mullen is 2-33 all time against teams that finish with 3 losses or less. So the word is still out on if Kirby can get over the hump. But I think Mullen has a clear ceiling if you just look at raw data.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:05 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
quote:One team wins it a year. And then there’s a runner-up. If you’re not going to be the champion, I would rather be the runner-up.
You don't get credit for being super, uber close to winning the CFP Championship, you either win or you don't
It is a fact that there is middle ground between a champion and average. And it does matter where you fall after 1.
I realize you’re just trolling so you’re probably not looking for a legitimate answer. I’d probably be trolling my rival on an SEC message board too if my coach carried a Waffle House cup around just to go 3-9.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:08 pm to dhuck20
Mullen 100%. UGA settled for lower expectations
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:12 pm to Smokeyone
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UGA settled for lower expectations
Thankfully we always seem to do far better than your very low expectations for uga.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:23 pm to 3morereps
Georgia fans are delusional beyond reason.
Gator fans give no shits that Mullen lost to Georgia at Miss State. Zero.
We care about the two losses. But neither anger us. Mullen was given a shite box of a team and turned it into a top ten team two straight years, with two straight BCS wins.
No one in Gator nation is even remotely angry or frustrated with Mullen.
Smart's pressure is not to beat Bama though, it's to win a title. With his recruiting people expect results. Mullen will feel some backlash with regression this year sure, but this is the first year winning the East feels like a strong possibility for him.
I'd say the greater pressure is for Smart to finally win a title, than for Mullen to win the SEC right now. Mainly because of the title streak Georgia fans have suffered through.
Just ask yourself this. Which coach was getting booed at home last year? Wasn't Mullen.
Gator fans give no shits that Mullen lost to Georgia at Miss State. Zero.
We care about the two losses. But neither anger us. Mullen was given a shite box of a team and turned it into a top ten team two straight years, with two straight BCS wins.
No one in Gator nation is even remotely angry or frustrated with Mullen.
Smart's pressure is not to beat Bama though, it's to win a title. With his recruiting people expect results. Mullen will feel some backlash with regression this year sure, but this is the first year winning the East feels like a strong possibility for him.
I'd say the greater pressure is for Smart to finally win a title, than for Mullen to win the SEC right now. Mainly because of the title streak Georgia fans have suffered through.
Just ask yourself this. Which coach was getting booed at home last year? Wasn't Mullen.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:24 pm to TheJimBrown7
Ppl just trolling imo; no program ever has set NC or bust expectations, this isn't the NFL. Smart has won 36 games the last three seasons and an SEC title. The SCar and Texas losses were the only unforgivable ones. That's a massive upgrade from Richt going 9-3 and getting sharkhumped 27-3 by McElwain's first Gata team in his 14th season at UGA. There are only like 5 programs in the nation and two in the SEC that wouldn't trade places with UGA rn with all the recruiting momentum Smart has
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:36 pm to TheJimBrown7
He was at Miss State for most of the raw data, you know, the worst program in the SEC West.
He also destroyed Michigan the year before in a BCS game, so only showing the Virginia game he also won is a reach.
So of the two BCS bowl wins, he won one closer than it should have been, and destroyed the other one that should have been close. Yea..what a big issue that is. He lost to two top five teams last year, one on the road to one of the best teams in CFB history and one the refs literally handed Georgia seven points(we all saw the BS call) which was the difference in the game.
What he did at Miss State is because it was Miss State. He is the best coach in their history. He set the bar high, which is why going to a bowl game is now an expectation there, instead of celebrated as an exceptional year. Ask Saban why he never won the Big Ten at Michigan State. Not easy.
Mullen took over a 4 win team and finished top ten 2 straight years. If you can't see how impressive that is, you are blind.
Though we know what is really going on here. Georgia fans are feeling very uncomfortable right now. This was their time in the spotlight..and Mullen has UF quickly coming back to what they were before Georgia finally has their dream season. So instead of admitting Mullen has done a great job(which he has and there is no rational argument to claim he hasn't), you diminish it by lying to yourselves so you can hold on a little bit longer to the spotlight.
It's okay though. If UF passes you by this year, you can always look back and think how great the few years of spotlight were and brag to you grandchildren in twenty years how close you came to seeing Georgia almost win a national title.
He also destroyed Michigan the year before in a BCS game, so only showing the Virginia game he also won is a reach.
So of the two BCS bowl wins, he won one closer than it should have been, and destroyed the other one that should have been close. Yea..what a big issue that is. He lost to two top five teams last year, one on the road to one of the best teams in CFB history and one the refs literally handed Georgia seven points(we all saw the BS call) which was the difference in the game.
What he did at Miss State is because it was Miss State. He is the best coach in their history. He set the bar high, which is why going to a bowl game is now an expectation there, instead of celebrated as an exceptional year. Ask Saban why he never won the Big Ten at Michigan State. Not easy.
Mullen took over a 4 win team and finished top ten 2 straight years. If you can't see how impressive that is, you are blind.
Though we know what is really going on here. Georgia fans are feeling very uncomfortable right now. This was their time in the spotlight..and Mullen has UF quickly coming back to what they were before Georgia finally has their dream season. So instead of admitting Mullen has done a great job(which he has and there is no rational argument to claim he hasn't), you diminish it by lying to yourselves so you can hold on a little bit longer to the spotlight.
It's okay though. If UF passes you by this year, you can always look back and think how great the few years of spotlight were and brag to you grandchildren in twenty years how close you came to seeing Georgia almost win a national title.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:42 pm to Dawg4Life47
"He brought in a QB that hasn't started since 8th grade football and landed a 5 star LB from UGA that couldn't crack the starting line up."
Cox started at Georgia.
Mullen didn't recruit Trask.
How stupid can you be?
Posted on 5/14/20 at 4:47 pm to Gatorbait2008
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We care about the two losses. But neither anger us.
I mean, OK.
A few excerpts post-game after last years WLOCP:
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Posted by boXerrumble on 11/2/19 at 6:05 pm UGA last year and UGA this year are by FAR his two worst coached games. Cost UF a trip to Atlanta two straight years.
I won’t ever say Mullen is a better coach than Kirby until he can prove it.
Had circles coached around him all day today.
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I don't even think Kirby called a fantastic game, he still called a little bit of a stinker but Mullen just took the cake.
Horrible playcalling, horrible gameplan, once again
Grantham shows an unwillingness to play man, especially against a guy that's actually beating us on the regular.
You could literally stop half of the problems on defense by just putting Henderson in man coverage. He was riding with him every single play.
So many problems with Mullen in this game.
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Hard to feel positive about the future with another defensive meltdown and another loss in a winner take all game against Georgia.
It’s not just defense either. Our play calls in short yardage were garbage yesterday too.
At least McElwain won a few winner take all games.
Not quite the “singing of Kum Ba Yah” you described.
Posted on 5/14/20 at 5:03 pm to 3morereps
I say make a change this year or else there will be more UGA-UF attacks on each other in the future!
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 5/14/20 at 5:12 pm to 3morereps
That will be an exciting game, Florida did not lose much from 2019 season. That will be one good team to beat if can.
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