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re: Georgia had the #1 composite roster in college football in 2019
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:26 pm to tider04
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:26 pm to tider04
People said similar things about Orgeron and Dabo Swinney. Kirby may not be a game management savant, but he just needs to put together a better offensive staff; idk what could've sold him on Chaney or Coley.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:30 pm to RD Dawg
Finished the season ranked 24th in the coaches poll
He inherited Sony Michel, Nick Chubb, Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter, Isaiah Wims, Riley Ridley, FrAll American Isaac Nauta and a few more UDFAs too, its not like the team was chock full of scrubs.
The incoming freshman was 5* #2 QB in the country. And also Jake Fromm was there. Agreed both were freshmen but its not like it was bare
He inherited Sony Michel, Nick Chubb, Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter, Isaiah Wims, Riley Ridley, FrAll American Isaac Nauta and a few more UDFAs too, its not like the team was chock full of scrubs.
The incoming freshman was 5* #2 QB in the country. And also Jake Fromm was there. Agreed both were freshmen but its not like it was bare
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:31 pm to Mithridates6
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People said similar things about Orgeron and Dabo Swinney. Kirby may not be a game management savant, but he just needs to put together a better offensive staff; idk what could've sold him on Chaney or Coley.
The sustained success of Dabo has been impressive. I think he has been aided by a historically bad ACC, but still impressive. I think Orgeron caught lightning in a bottle last year with two elite coordinators that are both gone now, along with a #1 overall pick at QB. I don't see that level of success as sustainable for O but I'll happily admit I'm wrong if he wins another natty in the next 4-5 years. I would put Kirby in the same league as O, but not with Dabo.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:41 pm to tider04
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I would put Kirby in the same league as O
No natty, no league.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:44 pm to tider04
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Kirby inherited a 10 win team with a roster full of top 10 talent in one of the most talent rich states in the nation. Those are facts
I just laid out the "facts" for ya retard.
How many seniors were drafted from our '16
team?
Who were the QB's he inherited?
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He basically inherited a gold mine
How many seniors were drafted off the '16 team?
Do you have ANY idea how far off our recruiting had fallen? Our recruiting classes from '10 to '13 had less players drafted than Bama,UF,A&M,LSU,AU,ARKY and OM. We were TIED with Missouri with 13 drafted
We also had some of the worst facilities in the big 6.
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but so far has not been able to take UGA to the next level on the field
Playing for a NC isn't "elite"? Two top 5 finishes in 4 years isn't "elite"?
Who's done better as a 44 year old 1st time HC in the SEC?
[quote]Ron Zook, Larry Coker,
[/quote]
You are a certified clown.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:45 pm to sand mountainDvalues
Fla roster was like 60% 3* when mullen took over
2 different QBs also lol
Yep big boy wins
Also funny UF and UGA have finished so close in the final rankings last 2 yrs
Just shows Mullen has done one hell of a job
2 different QBs also lol
Yep big boy wins
Also funny UF and UGA have finished so close in the final rankings last 2 yrs
Just shows Mullen has done one hell of a job
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 4:58 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Finished the season ranked 24th in the coaches poll
Did you even watch the team? Did you see the QB situation or the OL situation?
The AP was exactly right and the team had no business being in the top 25.
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Nick Chubb, Roquan Smith, Lorenzo Carter, Isaiah Wims, Riley Ridley
Chubb wasn't close to the player he was a freshman.He signed Ridley and wasn't much a factor until his junior year and under Kirby's development.Same with Carter.
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The incoming freshman was 5* #2 QB in the country
So what? He was still freshman and had to be thrown into the fire immediately.
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Jake Fromm was there.
No he wasn't. He didn't sign til '17.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:15 pm to RD Dawg
What do yall think happened to Richt? Some of the stories about how lazy and unmotivated he was at Miami are shocking. I always liked the guy, but it's hard to respect someone who does that at his alma mater (and was well compensated)
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:15 pm to RD Dawg
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How many seniors were drafted from our '16
team?
Maybe Kirby should shoulder some blame for not developing that class--even a little? That senior class was rated as the #12 best class in the nation when they signed in 2013. That's not awesome, but it's far from terrible. Why couldn't Kirby develop even a single NFL draftee from a top 12 class? Those "terrible" QB's on his roster were mostly highly coveted 4-star players coming out of high school. Again--development. Richt and Kirby share in the failure of that 2016 class.
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Playing for a NC isn't "elite"?
You guys really trying to get alot of tread out of that choke-job of a loss to Bama, huh? UGA...new kings of the moral victory. Should we make a runner-up trophy you guys can display in your football complex? Would that make you feel like you've actually accomplished something?
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:16 pm to tider04
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He basically inherited a gold mine
He inherited a program that can strike gold if run properly, which he is doing, but he didn’t inherit a loaded roster. It had holes all over it.
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so far has not been able to take UGA to the next level on the field
This makes no sense. Uga is clearly on another level compared to the program richt left him.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:24 pm to tider04
Good ole Tarder04 acting like a sour bitch as usual.
Kirby sucks.
O caught lightning in a bottle.
Dabo wouldn’t be as good in the SEC
ONLY MY LORD SABAN IS A WORTHY COACH!!
Kirby sucks.
O caught lightning in a bottle.
Dabo wouldn’t be as good in the SEC
ONLY MY LORD SABAN IS A WORTHY COACH!!
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:25 pm to tider04
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t. Richt and Kirby share in the failure of that 2016 class.
This is by far the dumbest thing you have said yet. Our 2013 class was terrible before Kirby showed up.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:26 pm to tider04
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I would put Kirby in the same league as O,
Idk, once O got a job where its actually possible to win, he won a title in his third season.
Kirby?
Not so much.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:26 pm to djsdawg
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He inherited a program that can strike gold if run properly, which he is doing, but he didn’t inherit a loaded roster. It had holes all over it.
It had holes, but Richt consistency signed top 10 classes. It was FAR from a talent devoid roster. No matter how much you guys dump on Richt, he was a decent recruiter.
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This makes no sense. Uga is clearly on another level compared to the program richt left him.
Meh. Richt was a 10 win per year type guy. Won a couple of SEC titles. Kirby is an 11 or so win type guy with 1 SEC title. I don't see a huge difference to this point. Richt had some hella good teams, especially early on in Athens. People forget.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Kirby sucks.
Never said he sucks. Said he's an elite recruiter and mediocre game-day coach to this point in his career. His trophy case agrees with me.
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O caught lightning in a bottle.
Not a crazy argument. The next couple of years will tell the tale with O.
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Dabo wouldn’t be as good in the SEC
Do you actually disagree with that? If so, you are a massive moron.
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ONLY MY LORD SABAN IS A WORTHY COACH!!
Never said anything even close to this. Go put your tampon in, Nancy.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:35 pm to tider04
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had holes, but Richt consistency signed top 10 classes. It was FAR from a talent devoid roster. No matter how much you guys dump on Richt, he was a decent recruit
Worst shape our roster has been in since the 90’s when richt left. No sec level qbs ready to go, injury prone RBs, weak on the OL, weak at wr, weak in the secondary, and perhaps other holes.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:36 pm to djsdawg
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Worst shape our roster has been in since the 90’s when richt left. No sec level qbs ready to go, injury prone RBs, weak on the OL, weak at wr, weak in the secondary, and perhaps other holes.
LSU was in basically the same situation in a tougher division.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:37 pm to tider04
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Richt was a 10 win per year type guy. Won a couple of SEC titles. Kirby is an 11 or so win type guy with 1 SEC title. I don't see a huge difference to this point. Richt had some hella good teams, especially early on in Athens. People forget.
Early on richt is an entirely different subject. We are discussing old richt. The one who struggled to finish top 25 way too often. The one who struggled to develop guys into draft picks. Compare Kirby to that guy.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:38 pm to djsdawg
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Worst shape our roster has been in since the 90’s when richt left. No sec level qbs ready to go, injury prone RBs, weak on the OL, weak at wr, weak in the secondary, and perhaps other holes.
You do realize that the 2017 team that you guys are so proud of--the only Kirby team to win an SEC title (before losing to Bama in the natty)--that team was largely made up of Richt recruited players. You do realize that right? That roster wasn't in nearly as bad a shape as you guys like to pretend. Saban would have killed to inherit that much talent at Bama in 2007.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:40 pm to tider04
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but Richt consistency signed top 10 classes. It was FAR from a talent devoid roster.
Talent had fallen way off the 2nd half of his career.He was consistently out recruited by Bama,LSU and UF. Pruitt did give recruiting a boost in '14 and '15...too late by then though.
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especially early on in Athens. People forget.
Sure but that wasn't the Richt that got canned.
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