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Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:37 pm to YStar
I don’t think that’s the reason. I think it’s because a lot of these so called draft experts don’t really evaluate the players or have much clue what the team scouts actually think. They just put Bama players up there just because Bama. So essentially it’s brand recognition and measurables.
Mock drafts as a whole this far out are complete crapshoots.
Mock drafts as a whole this far out are complete crapshoots.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:41 pm to 1BamaRTR
These players get draft grades from the NFL and that is what they go by, not mock drafts.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:48 pm to Shaft Williams
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Deep WR pool in this draft
Deep pool next year too, if the 2020 Juniors all leave. Chase, Ross, Waddle just to name 3.
But it's not as deep as this class. This class is all kinds of ridiculous. There as many as 8 guys who would contend as the #1 WR overall in a normal year. Bama has 2 of them, maybe 3 if Devontae runs in the 4.3s.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:51 pm to remaster916
The poster I responded to was talking about a lot of players getting mocked to the first round and why that possibly was
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:52 pm to YStar
Here is the thing. Moses is arguably the only ilb worth a first round pick in this entire draft. The position is really thin this year. It would be an excellent year for him to go.
Only other guy is maybe Isaiah Simmons, but a lot of guys think he is an olb at the next level.
Only other guy is maybe Isaiah Simmons, but a lot of guys think he is an olb at the next level.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:58 pm to VaBamaMan
That’s true but there’s drafts in which there are no true ILB drafted in the first round. The position isn’t highly valued as some others.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:04 pm to YStar
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Leatherwood, McKinney, Lewis and Moses are no way in the first round.
Ruggs would be lucky to make the first round this year because the WR class is so deep.
This is bogus. I follow the draft heavily, even scout a little bit here and there for fun. I follow both expert and novice mocks and rankings.
Learherwood is borderline first round, he is at worst the 5th best tackle in this draft, and his versatility to play rt, lt, and guard help him tremendously.
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McKinney
Is probably a second rounder, but if he runs a a 4.5 or under, he is absolutely a first rounder. His speed is the big question mark.
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Lewis
It's hard to really say, his talent level is absolutely first round. He plays with strength, bend, and has excellent swim, spin, bullrush, and rip moves Uses his hands well too. Health and lack of tape knocks him down.
Already said my piece on Moses.
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Ruggs
Is absolutely a first rounder, without a doubt. 1000%. He is probably the 3rd WR off the board, behind Jeudy and Lamb. He may pass Lamb if Lamb runs a slow 40(dude isn't fast), and Ruggs runs under 4.25. Which is possible.
It is easily possible that all of them do go in the first round. Along with Wills, Jeudy, Tua...etc.
Devontae is going to be a first rounder too, imo. He has the best hands, is the best against press coverage, runs excellent routes, wins 50/50 balls. Unless he runs an abysmal 40, which he won't, he is a first rounder.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:06 pm to TideSaint
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Did Julio Jones, Mark Ingram or Marcel Dareus skip our bowl game in 2010 when we were 9-3?
Hell no.
In 2010, what draft eligibility players were skipping the draft? It really wasn't a thing back then.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:10 pm to 1BamaRTR
I agree that mocks are a crapshoot a lot of the time. But the better draft analysts take a pretty simple approach. Identify each teams greatest need and then mock the best player at that position to them. Problem is a lot of teams put out a ton of disinformation about what they intend to do. Also teams vary wildly on their player evals a lot of the time. But to day categorically that leatherwood, McKinney, moses, etc. are in no way 1st round picks is a stretch.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:13 pm to RollTide33
I didn’t say they would definitely not be first round picks but every year we have less guys going as high as they are projected this far out. I highly, highly doubt they would all be first round picks. Some of them will drop.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:41 pm to BamaGradinTn
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In 2010, what draft eligibility players were skipping the draft?
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:59 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Ruggs, Smith, Leatherwood, and Moses are all thinking of coming back.
I’ll cry if they do.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:45 pm to TideSaint
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TideSaint
That's all you've got...a fricking emoticon? You can't even make a fricking argument?
I'll make the point again. In 2010, this wasn't an issue. High profile draft eligible players weren't skipping the draft until McCaffrey and Fournette did it. This issue wasn't even on the radar.
Julio Jones was considering sitting out this year until he got his contract renegotiated. You don't think he might have sat if a dozen other high profile players hadn't already blazed that trail? A guy who was under contract and considering not even fricking showing up for work?
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 9:50 pm to BamaGradinTn
He did confused emoticon because you keep saying skipping the draft instead of skipping the bowl game
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:04 pm to pvilleguru
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 12/6/19 at 10:52 pm to VaBamaMan
Book marked.. we will see how good your are at your side gig
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:40 pm to AHM21
You're right on both accounts. I doubt any of those players will stay.
Ruggs is projected first round in lot of draft lists.
Ruggs is projected first round in lot of draft lists.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 11:47 pm
Posted on 12/6/19 at 11:57 pm to Capstone2017
Just depends on what their priorities are. Its possible, not likely, that they don't want to go out like this. Maybe they want to come back and try to win a title. Who knows.
Posted on 12/7/19 at 3:39 am to TideSaint
As for sitting out bowl games ,wasn't Andre Smith the first one of Saban era who sat out th Sugar Bowl against Utah? Strictly for self preservation.
Yes he did.
Yes he did.
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