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re: Dylan Moses-Torn ACL. Out Indefinitely.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:02 pm to Shaft Williams
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:02 pm to Shaft Williams
No team will waste a high draft pick on a injured player.
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:02 pm to YStar
So to make a comment on the text I posted. The source is a coach so obviously he’s emotional he invests his life into these kids and is likely sick of seeing excuses and or brush off of injuries. My .10 cents.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:05 pm to CrimsonBoz
May be a dumb question...but is there a drill our LBs/Players are doing that is weakening their knees making them more susceptible to Injury?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:06 pm to mistaken4193
There are a ton of fast twitch movements and change of direction drills.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:08 pm to CrimsonBoz
Maybe we should start by cutting back on the amount of times we do them type of drills
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:09 pm to remaster916
cowboys with jaylon smith in recent memory. Jaylon’s pick seems to have worked in their favor though
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:23 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Hightower is a good example of exactly what I'm talking about. He suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee and missed almost an entire season in 2009 with surgery after being cut blocked by an Arkansas DL. Take the force of both Hightower's extra maybe 40 pounds and the extra maybe 50 pounds of the Arkansas OL being exerted on that ligament, compared to a similar hit in the early seventies. Muscle mass increases, but I doubt that the durability of ligaments to withstand that kind of force increases in proportion.
Okay; so the timeframe you’re taking about goes back to the seventies. That makes more sense; I think it’s undeniable overall that ligaments and tendons are overstressed with the current body types of high level football players.
Can’t deny the epidemic either, a close friend of mines older brother is an Orthopedic doc and was a team doc for the Ravens and Eagles; he unequivocally said that modern athletes are overburdening their joints with their size. the principle of scaling is that size and strength aren’t proportional.
My concern is still why is one position on one team having such high rates of failure? Even with the conditions being ripe for the injury it appears on the surface to be an outlier. Compare Georgia, LSU and Clemson. Their knee injury rate at LB is much lower over the past four years. Maybe their is a underlying reason, maybe it really is bad luck. It’s clear that some serious analysis needs to be done.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:44 pm to remaster916
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No team will waste a high draft pick on a injured player.
Unless you're the Tennessee Titans!!!!
(Those frickin' idiots)
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:47 pm to remaster916
Jeffrey Simmons last draft?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:12 pm to DT55Forever1
I've heard former Bama players say NFL camps are a breeze in the park after the Alabama experience & its paid off but you still hate to routinely see star players out before the season kicks off.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:19 pm to Canyon16
Dylan is one of the better athletes at the LBer position in a few years, he has plenty of game film, and he's a high character guy. I doubt seriously if he will need to come back next season. Ever since Rod Woodson tore his ACL and came back the same season and played in the Superbowl for the Steelers the ACL injury has become seemingly a common speed bump in the career of NFL players. Dylan will most likely never suit up for Bama again and will still be a high NFL draft pick.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:24 pm to RolltidePA
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Maybe their is a underlying reason, maybe it really is bad luck. It’s clear that some serious analysis needs to be done.
As we know that the desired size in football will not change, the only solution has to be reducing the total amount of joint use for each player.
Using Moses as an example, if limiting injuries is the top priority, Moses would have needed to get a fraction of the practice reps - just enough to be mentally ready, and then go over and get on a bike for the rest of practice. Sure, you're sacrificing how ready he is due to lack of repetition, but at least he's available for the game.
I'm not saying that this is what we should do - I'm only saying that it's likely the only solution. The problem is that the only way to get good at football for game purposes is to simulate the game over and over in practice, time after time after time.
Personally, I don't think there's much to do. However, if I'm coach Saban, I'd have ever single player wearing those Olineman knee braces for the entirety of practices. Take them off for game time, but practice in them 100% of the time.
And if I'm in Orthopedic R&D, I invent full length football pants that integrate the knee brace right into the pants, thereby preventing slipping of the brace. If any of you invent this, please give me 10%. Thanks.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:30 pm to prevatt33
These are the injuries Alabama has dealt with entering season (BamaOnLine)
Prayers for all players, especially those who suffer a serious injury.
Prayers for all players, especially those who suffer a serious injury.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:42 pm to prevatt33
What about items like compression sleeves? Do those offer support without hurting performance?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:47 pm to CrimsonBoz
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So to make a comment on the text I posted. The source is a coach so obviously he’s emotional he invests his life into these kids and is likely sick of seeing excuses and or brush off of injuries. My .10 cents.
Preaching to the choir.
I'm stunned. Why in the world are our VETERANS banging two days before our season opener?
This isn't midseason where you rest Sunday, shorts Monday, bang Tuesday, light bang Weds, shorts Thurs..
This is coming off summer camp.
Vets are banging.
On a fricking Wednesday.
Man I just smh
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:50 pm to YStar
Do we know that they were banging? He tore his ACL - that can happen 1,000 different ways.
Brodie tore his ACL jogging out of bonds against WCU in 2004.
Brodie tore his ACL jogging out of bonds against WCU in 2004.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:51 pm to YStar
This injury is demoralizing. Man it’s gonna be tough on defense without moses. Don’t know what our LBs did to have this kind of luck but it’s getting absolutely stupid. Meanwhile has Clemson even had an injury this offseason? More about being lucky could decide who wins the title
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:54 pm to pmacattack
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What about items like compression sleeves?
I think those could very, very mildly help shore up a loose joint, but I don't think it'll help much at all at preventing a sudden movement ligament tear.
The only way to prevent ligament tears is to prevent the joint itself from getting displaced, or lessen the muscles' pull on said ligament. I don't think compression sleeves will do much, honestly.
Also, it needs to be noted that some people are much more prone to ACL tears than other people, due to certain folks' knee morphology regarding upper leg/lower leg angle as well as the ligament's attachment point. That's why ACL tears are so common in female athletes. Most women's knees are just a bit more knock-kneed that men's, resulting in significantly more stress to the ACL.
For some folks, ACL tears are just part of their destiny.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:57 pm to YStar
Well, it sounds like it happened Tuesday (ya know "bang Tuesday"). And if I had to guess Saban put the exact same routine everyday of every week. So the 1st game week is going to be just like any other game week.
But that just my guess.
But that just my guess.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 2:57 pm to CrimsonBoz
I’m going to come out and say it.. I HATE Mack Wilson.. his comment is exactly why I’m glad he is gone..
Start the downvotes..lol
Start the downvotes..lol
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 3:13 pm
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