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Florida vs Miami History: The Florida Flop
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 am
The most infamous of all the games in the series.
But first a little history.
The Gators and Hurricanes played an annual "home-and-away" series for almost half a century beginning in 1938 except for 1944, when UF did not field a team during WW II. The rivalry was once the most important in the state, as Miami and Florida were major college programs and began playing each other a decade before the FSU first took the field. The yearly series ended in 1988, when the SEC increased the number of conference games from six to seven. Florida required six home football games to maintain funding levels for its athletic department, so the school decided to fill out its three game non-conference schedule with two teams that did not require a home-and-home arrangement plus Florida State, ending the series with Miami.
OK back to the Florida Flop or Gator Flop as some idiots have tried to rename it. It just doesn't roll off the tongue as well as Florida Flop.
Regardless, this 3 min video will explain it better than I can, even though it is from the Miami news station and obviously their point of view.
Here is the quick 1 minute version.
Florida Flop
And here is the 3 minute version with reactions.
People mad as hell
A recap is below in the next post if you can't watch youtube at work.
But first a little history.
The Gators and Hurricanes played an annual "home-and-away" series for almost half a century beginning in 1938 except for 1944, when UF did not field a team during WW II. The rivalry was once the most important in the state, as Miami and Florida were major college programs and began playing each other a decade before the FSU first took the field. The yearly series ended in 1988, when the SEC increased the number of conference games from six to seven. Florida required six home football games to maintain funding levels for its athletic department, so the school decided to fill out its three game non-conference schedule with two teams that did not require a home-and-home arrangement plus Florida State, ending the series with Miami.
OK back to the Florida Flop or Gator Flop as some idiots have tried to rename it. It just doesn't roll off the tongue as well as Florida Flop.
Regardless, this 3 min video will explain it better than I can, even though it is from the Miami news station and obviously their point of view.
Here is the quick 1 minute version.
Florida Flop
And here is the 3 minute version with reactions.
People mad as hell
A recap is below in the next post if you can't watch youtube at work.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 am to bigDgator
I'd heard about it plenty of times throughout the years. If you're a college football fan -- and especially if you're from South Florida -- you probably have, too.
The Gator Flop.
In case you don't know the story, here's the short version: Miami and Florida were both having miserable seasons when they squared off at the Orange Bowl for the final game of the 1971 season. But the game still had plenty of juice -- in part because of the schools' longtime rivalry and in part because Florida quarterback John Reaves needed 343 passing yards to break Jim Plunkett's NCAA career passing record of 7,544 yards.
With time winding down and Florida winning by a lopsided score of 45-8, Reaves was still 10 yards shy of the record. Miami had the ball and was slowly driving for a meaningless touchdown -- too slowly for Florida's taste. Fearing that time might expire before Reaves could get the ball back, the Florida defense repeatedly called timeout. But Miami kept creeping down the field.
That's when the Florida defense played its trump card: As Miami snapped the ball from the Florida 8-yard line, the Gators players fell down on the job -- literally. They simply flopped to the ground, giving Miami quarterback John Hornibrook an uncontested touchdown.
A few minutes later, Reaves got his record by completing a pass to Carlos Alvarez as time expired. But the Miami players were incensed, and so was Canes coach Fran Curci, who called the incident "the worst thing I have ever seen in football."
I'd read about the Gator Flop before, but I'd never seen the play until a clip of it recently showed up on YouTube. I was curious about how the principals involved felt about it at the time and how they feel about it now, nearly 40 years later.
The first thing I wanted to know was whether the record had been on the players' minds in the week leading up to the game and how prominently it figured in their thinking as the game unfolded. Nowadays, media coverage would lead to endless discussion about a passing record that was within reach, but was that the case back in 1971?
*The article goes on in depth with player interviews after this.
The Gator Flop.
In case you don't know the story, here's the short version: Miami and Florida were both having miserable seasons when they squared off at the Orange Bowl for the final game of the 1971 season. But the game still had plenty of juice -- in part because of the schools' longtime rivalry and in part because Florida quarterback John Reaves needed 343 passing yards to break Jim Plunkett's NCAA career passing record of 7,544 yards.
With time winding down and Florida winning by a lopsided score of 45-8, Reaves was still 10 yards shy of the record. Miami had the ball and was slowly driving for a meaningless touchdown -- too slowly for Florida's taste. Fearing that time might expire before Reaves could get the ball back, the Florida defense repeatedly called timeout. But Miami kept creeping down the field.
That's when the Florida defense played its trump card: As Miami snapped the ball from the Florida 8-yard line, the Gators players fell down on the job -- literally. They simply flopped to the ground, giving Miami quarterback John Hornibrook an uncontested touchdown.
A few minutes later, Reaves got his record by completing a pass to Carlos Alvarez as time expired. But the Miami players were incensed, and so was Canes coach Fran Curci, who called the incident "the worst thing I have ever seen in football."
I'd read about the Gator Flop before, but I'd never seen the play until a clip of it recently showed up on YouTube. I was curious about how the principals involved felt about it at the time and how they feel about it now, nearly 40 years later.
The first thing I wanted to know was whether the record had been on the players' minds in the week leading up to the game and how prominently it figured in their thinking as the game unfolded. Nowadays, media coverage would lead to endless discussion about a passing record that was within reach, but was that the case back in 1971?
*The article goes on in depth with player interviews after this.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:19 am
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:20 am to bigDgator

Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:23 am to fibonaccisquared
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That's classic. And you guys give us shite for stomping on the damn logo..
Oh yeah, Coach Doug Dickey who is in the University of Tennessee Hall of Fame. He is a Florida alumnus as well.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:24 am to bigDgator
I listened to that game on the radio while visiting relatives in Georgia. I can't for the life of me remember how we picked up a broadcast of a UF game in middle Georgia, but we did. The broadcast was going in and out, and when UF "flopped" we weren't sure what happened at first, but when Otis Boggs described it we all laughed hysterically!!
I grew up in Gainesville, FL, by the way. I went to the same High School as Doug Dickey but attended UGA. It's a long story.
I grew up in Gainesville, FL, by the way. I went to the same High School as Doug Dickey but attended UGA. It's a long story.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:26 am
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:32 am to DawgTired
Oh man I would love to have some beers with you and swap a few stories!
I didn't know DD went to high school in Gainesville.

I didn't know DD went to high school in Gainesville.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:35 am
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:37 am to bigDgator
quote:I can't tell you how many games of Madden, and EA Sports NCAA Football, I've wanted to be able to do this.
Florida Flop
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:40 am to AndyWoods
It was a terrible thing to do. But Gator fans kind of like it now because we don't like both Miami and Doug Dickey. Can't stand them at all. As a matter of fact we probably hate Dickey more than Miami. 

Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:17 am to bigDgator
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Miami and Florida were major college programs
WUT? Till the 1980s Miami was the school you scheduled for homecoming and Florida didnt win an SEC Championship till 1991. They were not even average college programs
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:19 am to StopRobot
Actually he is talking about being a D-1 program, which FSU was not for about their first 10 years until 1958. Also Florida was a good team in the ‘60’s. We sucked donkeys in the 70’s.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:21 am to bigDgator
Dickey graduated sometime before me, but we both went to P.K. Yonge near the UF campus. I grew up despising Georgia. A high school classmate and I both left Gainesville for UGA. Life is funny sometimes.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:32 am to StopRobot
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WUT? Till the 1980s Miami was the school you scheduled for homecoming and Florida didnt win an SEC Championship till 1991. They were not even average college programs
Florida was pretty good in the 60's. Then in the 80's we had a very good run but probation end up costing us. We were coming to form, then Spurrier took over and it was GG
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:39 am to Gatorbait2008
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Florida was pretty good in the 60's. Then in the 80's we had a very good run but probation end up costing us. We were coming to form, then Spurrier took over and it was GG
One brief run in the 60s does not a major program make. You were an average program at best. Miami damn sure wasnt a major program
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:08 pm to StopRobot
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One brief run in the 60s does not a major program make. You were an average program at best. Miami damn sure wasnt a major program
I copied and pasted that from wiki. No one is trying to say that UF and UM were top notch programs. They played major college football which means division I-A, instead of D-IAA or D-II.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:16 pm to bigDgator
I remember when there was talk of Miami moving down to 1-AA in the late 70s, after they lost a homecoming game to FAMU...And then Snellenburger showed up....
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:24 pm to bigDgator
Not a fan of getting a record that way, but at the end of the day they got the record.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:28 pm to bigDgator
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except for 1944, when UF did not field a team during WW II.
Just a small correction...UF didn't field a team for 1943...they did field teams for 1940-'42, '44 and '45.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:29 pm to fibonaccisquared
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And you guys give us shite for stomping on the damn logo...
At least the Gators questionable act was after the game and not on the first series.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:31 pm to bigDgator
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing that.
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:37 pm to bigDgator
I remember the incident while in school at UGA...hadn't thought about it since until now! Wow.
It may have been "bush league"; but, I think UF can be forgiven due to the circumstances. I'm on UF's side...I'da gone for the record at that point, too.
It may have been "bush league"; but, I think UF can be forgiven due to the circumstances. I'm on UF's side...I'da gone for the record at that point, too.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:39 pm
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