Started By
Message
locked post

Florida vs Miami History: The Florida Flop

Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 am
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 am
The most infamous of all the games in the series.

But first a little history.

The Gators and Hurricanes played an annual "home-and-away" series for almost half a century beginning in 1938 except for 1944, when UF did not field a team during WW II. The rivalry was once the most important in the state, as Miami and Florida were major college programs and began playing each other a decade before the FSU first took the field. The yearly series ended in 1988, when the SEC increased the number of conference games from six to seven. Florida required six home football games to maintain funding levels for its athletic department, so the school decided to fill out its three game non-conference schedule with two teams that did not require a home-and-home arrangement plus Florida State, ending the series with Miami.

OK back to the Florida Flop or Gator Flop as some idiots have tried to rename it. It just doesn't roll off the tongue as well as Florida Flop.

Regardless, this 3 min video will explain it better than I can, even though it is from the Miami news station and obviously their point of view.

Here is the quick 1 minute version.
Florida Flop

And here is the 3 minute version with reactions.
People mad as hell

A recap is below in the next post if you can't watch youtube at work.


Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 am to
I'd heard about it plenty of times throughout the years. If you're a college football fan -- and especially if you're from South Florida -- you probably have, too.

The Gator Flop.

In case you don't know the story, here's the short version: Miami and Florida were both having miserable seasons when they squared off at the Orange Bowl for the final game of the 1971 season. But the game still had plenty of juice -- in part because of the schools' longtime rivalry and in part because Florida quarterback John Reaves needed 343 passing yards to break Jim Plunkett's NCAA career passing record of 7,544 yards.

With time winding down and Florida winning by a lopsided score of 45-8, Reaves was still 10 yards shy of the record. Miami had the ball and was slowly driving for a meaningless touchdown -- too slowly for Florida's taste. Fearing that time might expire before Reaves could get the ball back, the Florida defense repeatedly called timeout. But Miami kept creeping down the field.

That's when the Florida defense played its trump card: As Miami snapped the ball from the Florida 8-yard line, the Gators players fell down on the job -- literally. They simply flopped to the ground, giving Miami quarterback John Hornibrook an uncontested touchdown.

A few minutes later, Reaves got his record by completing a pass to Carlos Alvarez as time expired. But the Miami players were incensed, and so was Canes coach Fran Curci, who called the incident "the worst thing I have ever seen in football."

I'd read about the Gator Flop before, but I'd never seen the play until a clip of it recently showed up on YouTube. I was curious about how the principals involved felt about it at the time and how they feel about it now, nearly 40 years later.

The first thing I wanted to know was whether the record had been on the players' minds in the week leading up to the game and how prominently it figured in their thinking as the game unfolded. Nowadays, media coverage would lead to endless discussion about a passing record that was within reach, but was that the case back in 1971?

*The article goes on in depth with player interviews after this.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:20 am to
That's classic. And you guys give us shite for stomping on the damn logo...
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:23 am to
quote:

That's classic. And you guys give us shite for stomping on the damn logo..


Oh yeah, Coach Doug Dickey who is in the University of Tennessee Hall of Fame. He is a Florida alumnus as well.
Posted by DawgTired
Member since Jul 2018
691 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:24 am to
I listened to that game on the radio while visiting relatives in Georgia. I can't for the life of me remember how we picked up a broadcast of a UF game in middle Georgia, but we did. The broadcast was going in and out, and when UF "flopped" we weren't sure what happened at first, but when Otis Boggs described it we all laughed hysterically!!

I grew up in Gainesville, FL, by the way. I went to the same High School as Doug Dickey but attended UGA. It's a long story.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:26 am
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:32 am to
Oh man I would love to have some beers with you and swap a few stories!

I didn't know DD went to high school in Gainesville.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:35 am
Posted by AndyWoods
Middle
Member since Oct 2018
1131 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Florida Flop
I can't tell you how many games of Madden, and EA Sports NCAA Football, I've wanted to be able to do this.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:40 am to
It was a terrible thing to do. But Gator fans kind of like it now because we don't like both Miami and Doug Dickey. Can't stand them at all. As a matter of fact we probably hate Dickey more than Miami.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Miami and Florida were major college programs


WUT? Till the 1980s Miami was the school you scheduled for homecoming and Florida didnt win an SEC Championship till 1991. They were not even average college programs
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:19 am to
Actually he is talking about being a D-1 program, which FSU was not for about their first 10 years until 1958. Also Florida was a good team in the ‘60’s. We sucked donkeys in the 70’s.
Posted by DawgTired
Member since Jul 2018
691 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:21 am to
Dickey graduated sometime before me, but we both went to P.K. Yonge near the UF campus. I grew up despising Georgia. A high school classmate and I both left Gainesville for UGA. Life is funny sometimes.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:32 am to
quote:



WUT? Till the 1980s Miami was the school you scheduled for homecoming and Florida didnt win an SEC Championship till 1991. They were not even average college programs



Florida was pretty good in the 60's. Then in the 80's we had a very good run but probation end up costing us. We were coming to form, then Spurrier took over and it was GG
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Florida was pretty good in the 60's. Then in the 80's we had a very good run but probation end up costing us. We were coming to form, then Spurrier took over and it was GG



One brief run in the 60s does not a major program make. You were an average program at best. Miami damn sure wasnt a major program
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45890 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

One brief run in the 60s does not a major program make. You were an average program at best. Miami damn sure wasnt a major program


I copied and pasted that from wiki. No one is trying to say that UF and UM were top notch programs. They played major college football which means division I-A, instead of D-IAA or D-II.



Posted by UnderDog68
Thomasville, Ga.
Member since Sep 2017
2645 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:16 pm to
I remember when there was talk of Miami moving down to 1-AA in the late 70s, after they lost a homecoming game to FAMU...And then Snellenburger showed up....
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18914 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:24 pm to
Not a fan of getting a record that way, but at the end of the day they got the record.
Posted by RatRodDawg
UGA & USC alum/Los Angeles, Calif
Member since Nov 2018
2494 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

except for 1944, when UF did not field a team during WW II.


Just a small correction...UF didn't field a team for 1943...they did field teams for 1940-'42, '44 and '45.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12458 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

And you guys give us shite for stomping on the damn logo...


At least the Gators questionable act was after the game and not on the first series.
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
26247 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:31 pm to
Awesome story. Thanks for sharing that.
Posted by RatRodDawg
UGA & USC alum/Los Angeles, Calif
Member since Nov 2018
2494 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 1:37 pm to
I remember the incident while in school at UGA...hadn't thought about it since until now! Wow.

It may have been "bush league"; but, I think UF can be forgiven due to the circumstances. I'm on UF's side...I'da gone for the record at that point, too.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 1:39 pm
Page 1 2
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on X and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter