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Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2052 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:11 pm
No doubt both UT and UF had nice recruiting classes in 2019 - Congratulations to both fanbases. However a popular hot take on messageboards and in college sports media is "Vols and Gators are 'closing the gap' on Georgia's hold on SEC East".

2019 Recruiting Class Ranks:
UGA #2
UF #9
UT #11

How can you have a worse class than UGA and still close the gap?
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:18 pm
Posted by BigDave1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2018
117 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:12 pm to
I think Tennessee is going to start turning things around by going 9-3 in 2019 with a 5-3 record in the SEC
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2052 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

I think Tennessee is going to start turning things around by going 9-3 in 2019 with a 5-3 record in the SEC


so basically it's just a - "hey we are headed in the right direction so we think at some point in the future we will close the gap" kind of a feeling - not that the gap is actually closing now?
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by BigDave1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2018
117 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:24 pm to
It's going to take a while(like 3 seasons or so) for the Tennessee program to come back to where Tennessee fans think it should be and a 9-3 season would be great progress
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:33 pm to
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 4:53 pm to
Simple. Blue Chip ratio for both is going up. Georgia has been recruiting well for three cycles, and did better for a few years before as well. So you recruit at the same, both UF and Tenn recruit better than before. Therefore closing the gap. Difference between a three and five star is much different than a four and five star in most cases outside of those incredibly rare talents that are insanely good five stars like Lawrence, Fields, Harbin, Clowney, etc
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2052 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

Simple. Blue Chip ratio for both is going up. Georgia has been recruiting well for three cycles, and did better for a few years before as well. So you recruit at the same, both UF and Tenn recruit better than before. Therefore closing the gap. Difference between a three and five star is much different than a four and five star in most cases outside of those incredibly rare talents that are insanely good five stars like Lawrence, Fields, Harbin, Clowney, etc



UGA talent has been better the last few years and UGA is still adding better talent to a roster that is already more talented than UF and UT. The talent gap is still increasing.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Malefic Runt
Try my robe
Member since Oct 2018
1266 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 5:02 pm to
How'd you type that without inserting your "UGA is paying guys" schtick

Was it painful?
Posted by footballtimeintn
Nashville
Member since Feb 2013
732 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:20 pm to
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The talent gap is still increasing.


Let’s put it this way. You are a top 5 team currently. #2 classes will keep you in top 5. Tennessee is 5-7. A #11 class should put us at least a 7 or 8 win team.

Therefore you stay the same and we get better. Which means the gap is closing. Might be a big gap still. It’s more of a statement to say we are getting better than saying anything negative about Georgia.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44034 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:41 pm to
Tennessee has zero players invited to the combine this year so I definitely believe they’re narrowing the talent differential.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:42 pm to
There is no evidence that UGA will be a better football team in the future than they were the last 2 years. There are a dozen variables that go into performance than just raw talent. Look at LSU who steadily recruited top 5 and still lost 3-4 games per year.

QB is the most important position on the team and yours picks 3 games a year to play like arse and you have no one behind him.

OC is the most important position on the coaching staff and you promoted an in-house guy whose biggest qualification was being Jimbo's bag man.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44034 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:43 pm to
I’d argue there is evidence but there definitely isn’t evidence we’ll be worse going forwards.
Posted by BigDave1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2018
117 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:46 pm to
Here's how I think the SEC East will be this season

1)Georgia 10-2
2)Florida 10-2
3)Tennessee 9-3
4)Kentucky 7-5
5)South Carolina 5-7
6)Missouri 5-7
7)Vanderbilt 2-10
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Tennessee 9-3
Posted by BigDave1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2018
117 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 6:50 pm to
Illinois will be 2-10 Tennessee will surprise the SEC I think they lose to Florida,Georgia and Alabama finishing 5-3 in the SEC.


This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 6:52 pm
Posted by sand mountainDvalues
Member since Oct 2018
8718 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:04 pm to
Florida’s class this year is very similar to recent Clemson classes, and they’ve put a significantly better product on the field than Georgia has.


Mullen is a far far better gameday coach than Kirby is, he will get more out of a top 10 class than most would from top 3 classes. God forbid he ever signs an elite QB
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44034 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

Florida’s class this year is very similar to recent Clemson classes, and they’ve put a significantly better product on the field than Georgia has.


They’ve put out a better product on the field one out of the last two seasons.
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
12837 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:21 pm to
The first team gap is probably closing some, but UGA is pulling away on depth of good players. Vols and Gators better stay healthy. It os going to be funny to watch USC beat both of them this year. Hell, gameday Dan had to use all of his tricks to come back against them this year.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44034 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:28 pm to
What makes you think SC is going to beat Florida this year?
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 2/7/19 at 7:30 pm to
Serious question, why ask something you obviously think you already know, when you obviously have no intention of listening to anyone else’s opinion? Do you just like arguing? We started 8 3 stars on defense last year, against Georgia it was 9. The gap between UGa and UF will never be wider than that again. That’s your answer.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 7:33 pm
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