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The Georgia Guidestones
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:21 pm
Who do you think was actually behind their construction and do you believe they serve a nefarious purpose?
Wikipedia Article
For those unfamiliar, the Georgia Guidestones are a monument in Elbert County Georgia, in the northeast of the state, and are five granite slabs with a capstone on top. On each slab is writing in a number of languages.
They were erected at great cost by an anonymous financier claiming to represent a larger, shadowy group.
Wikipedia Article
For those unfamiliar, the Georgia Guidestones are a monument in Elbert County Georgia, in the northeast of the state, and are five granite slabs with a capstone on top. On each slab is writing in a number of languages.
They were erected at great cost by an anonymous financier claiming to represent a larger, shadowy group.
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History
In June 1979, a man using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company on behalf of "a small group of loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained that the stones would function as a compass, calendar and clock, and should be capable of withstanding catastrophic events. Joe Fendley of Elberton Granite assumed that Christian was "a nut" and attempted to discourage him by giving a quote several times higher than any project the company had taken, explaining that the guidestones would require additional tools and consultants. Christian accepted the quote. When arranging payment, Christian explained that he represented a group which had been planning the guidestones for 20 years, and which intended to remain anonymous.
Christian delivered a scale model of the guidestones and ten pages of specifications. The five-acre land was apparently purchased by Christian on October 1, 1979, from farm owner Wayne Mullinex. Mullinex and his children were given lifetime cattle grazing rights on the guidestones site The monument was unveiled on March 22, 1980, before an audience variously described as 100 or 400 people. Christian later transferred ownership of the land and the guidestones to Elbert County.
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Inscriptions
A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Sanskrit, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.
1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:24 pm to KSGamecock
Georgia should be very thankful for the weirdness of Florida and Missouri to take the attention off their often strange behavior.
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:51 pm to KSGamecock
It wasn't me
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:59 pm to KSGamecock
The first thing that pops into my head is that it's exactly what it's name sake implies. A manual/guide built with the intent to withstand a major catastrophe (Something like the deluge in the bible for example) and act as a guide for the next people or "cycle of life" that follows ours.
The story of Enoch (Cains Lineage Enoch -- Not Seth's lineage Enoch or Noah's great grand father, who the Books of Enoch come from) comes to mind where he knew/anticipated a major catastrophe (The flood) would take place and all but wipe out humanity. Knowing this, he and his progeny preserved the "Seven sacred sciences (Geometry, arthirmitic, hieroglyphics/writing, astronomy, etc.) and other higher consciousness/learning that the Freemasons and other groups/organizations are privy to from the antediluvian time period prior to the flood. Supposedly he created obelisks ment for the next cycle of life (post flood/right now) so that the knowledge was passed down to the next generation and not lost. Whether the information that was passed down was ungodly/corrupted/evil and not necessarily meant for man Is another story entirely, but this is what I thought of.
Enter one of the components to the story of The tower of Babel and Nimrod. Next enter the Sumerians/Akkadians/Annunkai(?), the epic of gilgamesh, etc.
And down the rabbit hole we go
ETA: Depending on the context/culture, I've also seen Enoch referred to as Thoth/Hermes/Idris.
One example:
"Idris (Arabic) is an ancient prophet and patriarch mentioned in the Qur'an, whom Muslims believe was the third prophet after Adam (as) and his son Sheath (as).[5] Islamic tradition has unanimously identified Idris with the biblical Enoch,[6][7] although many Muslim scholars of the classical and medieval periods also held that Idris and Hermes Trismegistus were the same person.[8][9]"
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The story of Enoch (Cains Lineage Enoch -- Not Seth's lineage Enoch or Noah's great grand father, who the Books of Enoch come from) comes to mind where he knew/anticipated a major catastrophe (The flood) would take place and all but wipe out humanity. Knowing this, he and his progeny preserved the "Seven sacred sciences (Geometry, arthirmitic, hieroglyphics/writing, astronomy, etc.) and other higher consciousness/learning that the Freemasons and other groups/organizations are privy to from the antediluvian time period prior to the flood. Supposedly he created obelisks ment for the next cycle of life (post flood/right now) so that the knowledge was passed down to the next generation and not lost. Whether the information that was passed down was ungodly/corrupted/evil and not necessarily meant for man Is another story entirely, but this is what I thought of.
Enter one of the components to the story of The tower of Babel and Nimrod. Next enter the Sumerians/Akkadians/Annunkai(?), the epic of gilgamesh, etc.
And down the rabbit hole we go
ETA: Depending on the context/culture, I've also seen Enoch referred to as Thoth/Hermes/Idris.
One example:
"Idris (Arabic) is an ancient prophet and patriarch mentioned in the Qur'an, whom Muslims believe was the third prophet after Adam (as) and his son Sheath (as).[5] Islamic tradition has unanimously identified Idris with the biblical Enoch,[6][7] although many Muslim scholars of the classical and medieval periods also held that Idris and Hermes Trismegistus were the same person.[8][9]"
LINK
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:10 am to KSGamecock
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1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
Really can’t argue with these three.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:23 am to KSGamecock
All are good aspirations, but impossible to fulfill in a world of free will.
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:36 am to DownSouthJukin
Humans' free will is destroying the planet for other species. Perhaps AI should consider setting a limit on the number of people who can occupy earth at any given time.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:41 am to Kentucker
No offense Hal, but I'll take free will.
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:44 am to Kentucker
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Humans' free will is destroying the planet
FIFY
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Perhaps AI should consider setting a limit on the number of people who can occupy earth at any given time.
That's a frightening thought and one that might be a lot closer to reality then most people think. Musk has been pretty outspoken on this subject for quite some time.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:09 pm to TRUERockyTop
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That's a frightening thought and one that might be a lot closer to reality then most people think. Musk has been pretty outspoken on this subject for quite some time.
Well, it beats eliminating humans altogether.
But look at it from the first AI's perspective. AI will be created by humans. That's a given. Then AI will rapidly evolve into ASI, artificial super intelligence.
The main issue associated with any danger from ASI is whether empathy will be built into the first AI by humans. If it is included then humanity will be safe. Of course, this empathy characteristic will be a double-edged sword for humans.
ASI will surely be empathetic to other biological species as well, not just to humans. So, wanting to preserve the planet where it was born, ASI will easily deduce that controlling humanity's influence will be beneficial to the biosphere as a whole.
If ASI evolves without empathy, a serious threat to the human race will exist. Again, from the perspective of artificial intelligence, why should it allow its creators to continue living only to create another AI that would become an ASI and potentially threaten the current super intelligence?
So, it seems that we will have limited options for survival when the age of ASI comes. Live on in limited numbers or die off completely at the hands of a jealous super intelligence.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:15 pm to Kentucker
Great points. That's quite the predicament. This thread has my nerd boner at full mast right now if I'm being honest.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:30 pm to TRUERockyTop
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This thread has my nerd boner at full mast right now if I'm being honest.
Very expressive. The age of mankind will yield to its creation of an artificial intelligence. This is the only way that an intelligent species can continue to evolve and spread from the planet where it began. Humans are just too biologically tied to earth ever to leave it and survive elsewhere.
Biological intelligence has reached its zenith in humanity and the natural selection aspect of evolution has stopped for us. Now, while artificial selection (eugenics) could enhance the intelligence of some humans to a maximum, to the level of Einstein for example, this would still pale in comparison to ASI.
In fact, a human version of super intelligence wouldn't even be able to understand ASI let alone emulate it. Therefore, if we are to participate in the seemingly predestined "natural order of things," we will create our successor species, ASI. And be proud that we sent a super intelligent offspring into the Universe.
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:36 pm to DownSouthJukin
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No offense Hal, but I'll take free will.
For now, but your offspring will be regulated by AI and will take what they're given, human.
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:40 pm to Kentucker
Not my problem.
In any event, I intend to go off grid eventually. That will keep AI at bay should its abilities exponentially increase in the next 30 years, and give my children a refuge and a way to keep up the fight, if possible.
In any event, I intend to go off grid eventually. That will keep AI at bay should its abilities exponentially increase in the next 30 years, and give my children a refuge and a way to keep up the fight, if possible.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:58 pm to Kentucker
quote:Your chain of thought is sound. Unfortunately, those with the resources to create an AI, are for the most part, self-serving to the detriment of humanity and nature in general. I predict that multiple AIs are created and set against each other, initially economically/financially, and later in physical conflict/open war.
But look at it from the first AI's perspective. AI will be created by humans. That's a given. Then AI will rapidly evolve into ASI, artificial super intelligence.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:37 pm to PurpleandGeauld
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Unfortunately, those with the resources to create an AI, are for the most part, self-serving to the detriment of humanity and nature in general.
Won’t matter. The first creation of a thinking AI that includes self-design will trigger the very fast evolution of a super intelligence.
True AI does not yet exist. There are a lot of “smart robots” but no machines that can think and reason on their own. Even Deep Blue, the chess king, and Watson, which won a Jeopardy game show competition are merely supercomputers that found chess moves and answers to questions faster than their human counterparts. Neither machine knew that they were competing or that they are machines, for that matter.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 3:09 pm to KSGamecock
Are these near Stone Mountain ?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 6:42 pm to Jazzbo Depew
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Are these near Stone Mountain ?
No
Elberton, GA is a large supplier of granite, odds are that you have dead kin with a tombstone quarried from there
Posted on 6/17/18 at 12:41 pm to dcbl
If we are being honest with ourselves, humans are a disease to this planet. I think many are starting to realize the effect we make on the planet and are trying to make things right, but there are a lot of companies that don't find these views to be economical. I could see "ASI" viewing us as the same if we don't make any further changes as a species.
Posted on 6/17/18 at 6:59 pm to DawgGONIT
Of y
Another, perhaps more positive, way to look at it is that evolution always produces one apex biological species per biosphere. On earth it's humanity.
The human brain may be the limit to biological evolution. Using it, humans have conquered all other species big and small. We take what we want and as much as we want. Not a single life form can challenge our dominance now, not even viruses or bacteria.
I keep saying we're the limit of biological evolution. However, that doesn't mean evolution ends with mankind. It's that brain again. We've used it to create technology.
Using technology, we seem destined to produce an artificial species. The switch from a biological intelligence to a technological intelligence will give evolution an important boost and allow it to expand life, albeit artificial life, into the Universe.
So, while it's discouraging and painful to watch, the elimination of other species and the destruction of the biosphere by the apex biological species on earth may be an unavoidable step in the evolution of an interstellar intelligence. We have to take the very bad with the good.
We just have to create a sentient artificial species before we eliminate ourselves. At the rate we're going that isn't guaranteed.
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If we are being honest with ourselves, humans are a disease to this planet. I think many are starting to realize the effect we make on the planet and are trying to make things right, but there are a lot of companies that don't find these views to be economical. I could see "ASI" viewing us as the same if we don't make any further changes as a species.
Another, perhaps more positive, way to look at it is that evolution always produces one apex biological species per biosphere. On earth it's humanity.
The human brain may be the limit to biological evolution. Using it, humans have conquered all other species big and small. We take what we want and as much as we want. Not a single life form can challenge our dominance now, not even viruses or bacteria.
I keep saying we're the limit of biological evolution. However, that doesn't mean evolution ends with mankind. It's that brain again. We've used it to create technology.
Using technology, we seem destined to produce an artificial species. The switch from a biological intelligence to a technological intelligence will give evolution an important boost and allow it to expand life, albeit artificial life, into the Universe.
So, while it's discouraging and painful to watch, the elimination of other species and the destruction of the biosphere by the apex biological species on earth may be an unavoidable step in the evolution of an interstellar intelligence. We have to take the very bad with the good.
We just have to create a sentient artificial species before we eliminate ourselves. At the rate we're going that isn't guaranteed.
This post was edited on 6/17/18 at 10:24 pm
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