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Even when they start with a good point, they shoot themselves in the foot
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:02 am
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:02 am
NYDN: Saving America from itself: Trump is a symptom, not the disease
Garry Kasparov (whom I generally regard as an intelligent idiot) starts off with some good insight into the Founders:
But then the curtain starts to slip:
He swerves away with some good points about partisan damages:
But then the feet go completely out from under him:
And we arrive to the conclusion that the solution is: Garry Kasparov and a Who’s Who of the self-important:
I gave up at that point. The intelligent idiot had outdone himself.
Garry Kasparov (whom I generally regard as an intelligent idiot) starts off with some good insight into the Founders:
quote:
The first modern democratic republic was founded on this healthy distrust of human nature, which led the Founders to construct a web of checks and balances to create the first nation of laws, not of men. The Founders were so skeptical because what they were attempting had no precedent. They prepared for the worst because they saw it all over the world: a world ruled by monarchs and dictators and warlords.
But then the curtain starts to slip:
quote:
The authors of the Constitution fretted about a democracy that might slide into mob rule, or a President who might fashion himself emperor. They worried that too much political influence could accrue to small groups with extreme positions, and that a largely uneducated populace could be easily swayed by a demagogue who preyed on voters' basest instincts and self-interest.
He swerves away with some good points about partisan damages:
quote:
This elasticity also means it's possible for the wrong man at the wrong time to do significant damage if the checks decline to check and the balance becomes unbalanced. It has been 44 years since the test of Richard Nixon, and the American system has become loose and lax from a generation of partisan pushing and pulling.
Every abuse by one party is in turn embraced and expanded on by the other, and so on in a vicious downward spiral. As the institutions weakened, the people's faith in them — and the belief in the principles underlying them — have weakened as well.
But then the feet go completely out from under him:
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While much work is simply left undone, undelegated power accrues upward, to the Oval Office, which is right where Trump wants it, free of oversight and public scrutiny. This has left the least-prepared, most unstable individual in the history of the presidency to conduct foreign policy by Twitter.
The charades and parades taking place between the Koreas right now is a perfect example. The photo-ops and proclamations are hollow at best, and at worst they risk empowering and prolonging the life of the North Korean concentration camp nation for years.
And we arrive to the conclusion that the solution is: Garry Kasparov and a Who’s Who of the self-important:
quote:
These dangerous trends are what led me to form the Renew Democracy Initiative a year ago. I first reached out to some friends who were horrified by what the Republican Party had become under Trump's influence. The original group included Octavian investor and publisher Richard Hurowitz, and prominent conservative intellectuals Anne Applebaum, Max Boot and Bret Stephens.
We all agreed that Trump is a symptom, not a cause. The populist nationalism he represents is like an opportunistic infection that takes advantage of an immune system weakened by years of poor diet and heavy smoking. A healthy body politic cannot produce a President like Trump any more than a healthy political party could choose him as its nominee.
To get to the root of the crisis, we knew we had to expand our group both ideologically and geographically. We reached out across the aisle and across the ocean with a manifesto that decries the extremism and hyper-partisanship that has made it increasingly difficult to discuss politics without hatred and hysteria.
I'm delighted that many leading lights on the left have joined us, from renowned legal scholar Laurence Tribe to proud "Hollywood elite" Rob Reiner.
I gave up at that point. The intelligent idiot had outdone himself.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:05 am to Ag Zwin
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They worried that too much political influence could accrue to small groups with extreme positions, and that a largely uneducated populace could be easily swayed by a demagogue who preyed on voters' basest instincts and self-interest.
This describes our modern day political reality.
This post was edited on 5/6/18 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:07 am to Ag Zwin
Anyone who tries to undermine the Constitution is traitor/spy and a should be hung immediately
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:14 am to Ag Zwin
quote:
They worried that too much political influence could accrue to small groups with extreme positions, and that a largely uneducated populace could be easily swayed by a demagogue who preyed on voters' basest instincts and self-interest.
Is he talking about the 2008 election?
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:23 am to Ag Zwin
The founders would love Trump and his message. They bled and risked their lives to get away from people like Hillary Clinton, George Bush, and Barack Obama, and now radical leftists are sitting there acting like they understand the founders’ intentions while they simultaneously try to ban guns, thrust us into a socialist economic system, and give a vote to every single felon and minority that enters this country?
Like holy shite they would probably call us to arms again if any of them were still alive and someone like Clinton won
Like holy shite they would probably call us to arms again if any of them were still alive and someone like Clinton won
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:26 am to Ag Zwin
Is he even a citizen?! Frick him
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:31 am to Ag Zwin
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Quote; I'm delighted that many leading lights on the left have joined us, from renowned legal scholar Laurence Tribe to proud "Hollywood elite" Rob Reiner.
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I gave up at that point. The intelligent idiot had outdone himself.
Absolutely - his first two paragraphs were thoughtful and attractive. Then he begins to rattle on the rails and that last Sentence is a snapshot of him plunging into the canyon.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:37 am to Ag Zwin
His remarks, as quoted by the OP, aren’t unreasonable at all. It’s one guy’s opinion but it isn’t unreasonable.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:47 am to TBoy
Who listens to this guy after getting caught cheating at chess?
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:51 am to Hmerly
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Who listens to this guy after getting caught cheating at chess?
Was wondering if this was the same guy.
But more importantly - how do you cheat at chess?? Put a whoopy-cushion in the opponents seat?
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:59 am to ChineseBandit58
I would respond to this guy the same way I always respond when idiots say Trump wants to be Emperor.
There are concrete examples of Trump removing powers from the Executive branch and giving them back to legislative and of Trump giving powers back to the states that the feds usurped in years past. A strange way for an emperor to behave.
There are concrete examples of Trump removing powers from the Executive branch and giving them back to legislative and of Trump giving powers back to the states that the feds usurped in years past. A strange way for an emperor to behave.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 1:10 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
He cheated by hiding his cell phone in the restroom during a tournament. He kept going over and over and people got suspicious. He was running a chess program on his phone that would show you the best move to make. Quite embarrassing for someone that use to be considered one of the best ever.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 1:49 pm to Ag Zwin
You have to be a blithering idiot to even remotely think Trump has no oversight or public scrutiny.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 2:45 pm to Jackalope
quote:Russian troll.
Garry Kasparov
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