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If you want pure objectivity, you're going to have a rough go of it. I think a better description would be:

A system that *attempts* to objectively determine a champion from a pool of 130 schools.

This system doesn't even attempt it. It only claims to do so.

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What improvement needs to be made?

There is no single improvement. The multiple improvements that could be made have been discussed at length multiple times and in multiple threads. I'd recommend reading those.

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The question was posed *to you* an Ohio State fan

Cool. I'd like to hear your answer.

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Are you saying that Ohio State was left out because of last year's results?

No. That isn't what I said.

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I'm curious about the logic of how you believe we will fairly select 4 teams objectively.

Well, then I think we need a reset, either in another thread or a new post.

The choice is yours.

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Is it? Let's look at it differently. If we allow Bama to play UCF's schedule, in your opinion, what is the outcome? Are they undefeated through the regular season and conference championship game? If so, would they have deserved to get in over say Ohio State?

Let's pretend for a moment that they don't lose any games. Undefeated Alabama plays 1 P5, 12 G5 schools... Ohio State plays their schedule and loses to Oklahoma at home and Iowa on the road by 30+... Is Alabama's on field performance an exhibition of one of the "4 best teams" more so than Ohio State?

You're asking the wrong questions.

Do you think this Ohio State gets in over an undefeated Alabama with any schedule?

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I offered what would probably be considered one of the most objective standards that we've had in college football

The degree of objectivity is irrelevant.

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Posted by fibonaccisquared

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Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye

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This system doesn't even attempt it. It only claims to do so.

In your opinion... which you're not willing to expound upon. Check.

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There is no single improvement. The multiple improvements that could be made have been discussed at length multiple times and in multiple threads. I'd recommend reading those.

If you have a comment where you have offered up *your opinion* on what improvements need to be made, feel free to link to them. Otherwise, a simple gist would be sufficient. For those of us who don't follow your posts religiously.

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Cool. I'd like to hear your answer.

I have many outstanding questions that have been posed to you... once those have been satisfied, I'll be more than happy to provide my answer. That's how this works, right?

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No. That isn't what I said.

Perfect... A concrete answer... about something that you *didn't* say. Could you clarify for everyone what you *intended to say*? Also, would you say that it's reasonable to *infer* from what you *said* that this is something that you believe?

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Well, then I think we need a reset, either in another thread or a new post.

The choice is yours.

I'm not sure what a new post requires here, let alone a new thread... we're still more or less on topic given that this stemmed from discussion of UCF and their claim to a national championship or their lack of inclusion in the CFP. It was a simple question which you could have given your thoughts to... but elected not to do so.

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You're asking the wrong questions.

Do you think this Ohio State gets in over an undefeated Alabama with any schedule?

In your opinion. I asked the question that I intended. More than happy to provide a response to yours once we've concluded answering all of the outstanding questions that have been asked of you.

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The degree of objectivity is irrelevant.

In your opinion. "By any objective standard"... this would imply a standard that *could actually be achieved*, rather than say a hypothetical 100% objective system that has yet to be invented. It is a common phrase that is used in that manner. If you're unfamiliar with the usage, fair enough... one would simply believe that an educated man such as yourself would be well acquainted with the basic parlance of the uneducated fans of SEC football.

If you want to argue semantics, we can do that as well, but let's make sure we define what it is that with which you take objection...

So class.. the lesson of the day is this:

DisgracedBuckeye is either unwilling or unable to take a position and provide any substantive logical argument in support of said position... When asked to do so, he will attempt to deflect, distract, or evade... This is also known as fear of failure. If one elects to not take a position and defend it, one does not "lose"... nor do they "win"... it becomes the Schrödinger's Cat of debate... instead you are both a winner and a loser, but until we learn your position, no one can answer the question.