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re: SIAP UCF to hang a national championship banner in their stadium

Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:20 pm to
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Just because UCF thinks they are national champions doesn't mean much.

Sure. Just because Georgia/Alabama thinks they're playing for a national championship doesn't mean much.


These two statements are obviously as equivalent as Alabama and UCF's strength of schedule.

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We both know that the system isn't getting changed at the request of a school like UCF.


There is a reason that many have said that the G5 schools probably should have separated out and had their own Playoff system... The deck will be stacked against them... that isn't WHY Central Florida didn't make the playoffs, but it is a fair analysis of their situation.

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We both know that the system isn't getting changed at the request of a school like UCF.


Again, why on earth the G5 conferences agreed to a system that gives them exactly 1/3 of the total votes is ridiculous. They have to convince 2/5 P5 conferences to side with them on anything to have their vote "count"... Objectively, it's ridiculous.

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UCF now has a common opponent with three of the four teams placed in the playoff.

So they've played one common opponent *after* the Playoff selection and that somehow now forces us to retroactively say that they should have been in the playoffs? You can't assume facts not in evidence at the time of evaluation. Rewriting history is fun, but ultimately it's insignificant.

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It's a small enough difference that eight spots different is ridiculous, particularly when taking their resumes in wholly. We're not talking about facts, either. We're talking about nothing more than subjective rankings rotated into whatever system a particular entity feels like using.


By any objective standard, UCF did not play an "equivalent" schedule to Alabama at the time of playoff selection. They played 1 P5 school in Maryland... didn't reschedule a game against Ga Tech. If you want to complain that they should have been closer to 5-8 in the CFP final rankings, I think that's fair, but they weren't one of the 4 best teams in the country based on what we saw on the field. To act like they were somehow snubbed out of the playoffs is asinine. Particularly given the fact that tOSU fans were bitching about their own team not getting in... with 2 losses.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 4:27 pm to
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These two statements are obviously as equivalent as Alabama and UCF's strength of schedule.


I couldn't stop being right if I tried.

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There is a reason that many have said that the G5 schools probably should have separated out and had their own Playoff system... The deck will be stacked against them... that isn't WHY Central Florida didn't make the playoffs, but it is a fair analysis of their situation.


Sure, but why pretend that the system is something it isn't?

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Again, why on earth the G5 conferences agreed to a system that gives them exactly 1/3 of the total votes is ridiculous. They have to convince 2/5 P5 conferences to side with them on anything to have their vote "count"... Objectively, it's ridiculous.


Money. These schools know there's money to be made by agreeing to it.

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So they've played one common opponent *after* the Playoff selection and that somehow now forces us to retroactively say that they should have been in the playoffs? You can't assume facts not in evidence at the time of evaluation. Rewriting history is fun, but ultimately it's insignificant.


Yes...absolutely. We can reevaluate when new information becomes available, and admit to making the wrong choices.

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By any objective standard


Name them.
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