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re: NCAA is a sad institution for burning Rebs, but letting Tar Heels slide
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:55 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 2/27/17 at 1:55 pm to lsufball19
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why do people keep saying the NCAA let UNC slide? They just received their 3rd NOA in December.
ANd it's still not over.
This just helps Ole Miss fans vent.
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 2:33 pm to sms151t
quote:I get that I have to accept it, but I don't know that have to be ok with it.
If the accreditation organization is okay with it, then you should be as well.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 11:56 pm to Cheese Grits
Tar Heels didn't have a guy tweeting himself wearing a dope gas mask 15 minutes before the draft and then telling ESPN reporters that Ole Miss paid him
Posted on 2/28/17 at 12:17 am to theGarnetWay
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People keep saying UNC is too big to hit but that hasn't stopped the NCAA from going after the likes of Ohio State and So Cal.
Trust me, I'm no fan of UNC but I don't think branding has to do with it. I just think the NCAA is inefficient and capricious in their investigations.
I'd imagine the cynical answer is that NCAA makes practically all of its money off of the hoops tourney and next to nothing from football. That said, it's been mentioned a couple of times already but nothing final has happened in the UNC case and given the depth of that case it's going to take a metric ton of investigation. It's also a case where accreditation could become an issue and that makes it far more dangerous than any investigation the NCAA has done in a while. At least in theory** UNC has put far more than their athletics programs at risk. The entire university is in danger. NCAA will proceed with extreme caution under such a scenario.
**Note I don't think any accrediting body has the balls to put a major school let alone one as prestigious as UNC on probation although it's theoretically possible and would likely happen if they were a poor no-name college or cash-strapped HBCU facing the same allegations. But in a less corrupt world it would be a possibility for such academic fraud and that aspect has nothing to do with whatever the NCAA might do to them.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 12:33 am
Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:42 pm to theGarnetWay
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People keep saying UNC is too big to hit but that hasn't stopped the NCAA from going after the likes of Ohio State and So Cal.
Both Ohio State and Southern California got tagged for minor offenses compared to where some of the real bodies are buried.
They hammered Indiana for texting
They hammered Kentucky for a measly thousand bucks
They hammered Kansas for ticket scalping issues
They let UCLA off and Wooden got to retire unscathed
They will let UNC off because it started under Dean Smith and they will not let him burn;
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:25 am to secuniversity
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In b4 LSU fan mentions Alabama and presents Instagram pics of players standing beside an $18,000 car as "evidence."
What a sad sack! Comparing two schools who got caught and your sad arse has to bring up Bama and LSU! Damn Son
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:44 am to Cheese Grits
It's a lot different cases.
NCAA has to tread carefully with UNC due to the academic nature of what's involved.
Ole Miss just went all SMU to compete in the SEC and left the trail easy for NCAA to follow.
It's like when Texas took down all the Big 8 teams that were cheating which ended up ending that conference, Texas was cheating too. It's the same thing, you beat Bama and the NCAA comes calling and Bama cheats as much as anyone.
NCAA has to tread carefully with UNC due to the academic nature of what's involved.
Ole Miss just went all SMU to compete in the SEC and left the trail easy for NCAA to follow.
It's like when Texas took down all the Big 8 teams that were cheating which ended up ending that conference, Texas was cheating too. It's the same thing, you beat Bama and the NCAA comes calling and Bama cheats as much as anyone.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 8:57 am to nicholastiger
Texas took down the SWC teams not the Big 8 teams. The Big 8 teams that got in trouble did it on their own and turned each other in or had stupid guys bragging about the money.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:04 am to nicholastiger
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Ole Miss just went all SMU to compete in the SEC and left the trail easy for NCAA to follow.
So easy that they had to give immunity to their biggest rival to get it? All SMU is giving our biggest defensive target in 3 years $15k? Look say we cheated. Say we are going to get fricked. Say we are doomed. But this SMU shite shows you either haven't read a single allegation or your bias means you don't care what the difference is.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:12 am to Whereisomaha
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they had to give immunity to their biggest rival to get it
You really need to stop with this fairy tale
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But this SMU shite shows you either haven't read a single allegation or your bias means you don't care what the difference is.
I can't find where SMU had STAFF set up meetings between boosters and recruits in order to pay for commitments. Y'all admit to paying for a commit
Posted on 3/3/17 at 11:00 am to Prof
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I'd imagine the cynical answer is that NCAA makes practically all of its money off of the hoops tourney and next to nothing from football.
We have Walter Beyer's to thank for that. A generation of greed and self-serving to the B1G and PCC/PAC and eventually the others revolted. Too bad Oklahoma and Georgia don't get a royalty check for going to court on behalf of the rest of the football schools.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 1:10 pm to Cheese Grits
If Ole Miss gets hit harder than Baylor people are going to flip their shite.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:06 pm to Vecchio Cane
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You really need to stop with this fairy tale
Not a fairy tale. NCAA case would be weaker without Student A-C testimony. That is a fact.
They broke the rules as well and cut a deal to keep playing. That is a fact. Giving money is cheating, no doubt, but so is asking for a payment and taking it when given.
The immunity is the B.S. part. I get it for the relatively minor infraction of taking a meal or hunting on some ones land, but this joker took $15,000 and he will skate.
Now State knows they have a person who broke the rules on their team and they don't have to do shite about it.
If that isn't twisted logic I don't know what is.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:12 pm to GoRebsGo!
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NCAA case would be weaker without Student A-C testimony. That is a fact.
No doubt about this. But WiO wasn't making that point. If he was then I apologize
The $15k isn't what OM is getting pinched for, it's that Staff Member A initialized contact between boosters and a recruit. The money is inconsequential and impossible to prove, which is why the $ part is the part that's being challenged
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:26 pm to MIZ_COU
Remember one of the top guys with the ncaa....during the questioning of paying players said.
"They cannot be paid because they are not amateurs."
REPORTER ASKED: Well, why aren't they amateurs?
And to the amusement of some he responded....
"They're not amateurs because they don't get paid". WTF
"They cannot be paid because they are not amateurs."
REPORTER ASKED: Well, why aren't they amateurs?
And to the amusement of some he responded....
"They're not amateurs because they don't get paid". WTF
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:30 pm to LSUNV
Remember that Miss State whistle-blower on Cam's dad couldn't get NOT ONE PERSON from Miss. St to back-up his claim?
Wonder why?
Wonder why?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:32 pm to karralum
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karralum
Who the F is this guy?!?
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:37 pm to GoRebsGo!
quote:If your staffers weren't doing shite while under NCAA investigation, you wouldn't even have a damn 2nd NOA. That is a fact!
Not a fairy tale. NCAA case would be weaker without Student A-C testimony. That is a fact.
They broke the rules as well and cut a deal to keep playing. That is a fact. Giving money is cheating, no doubt, but so is asking for a payment and taking it when given.
The immunity is the B.S. part. I get it for the relatively minor infraction of taking a meal or hunting on some ones land, but this joker took $15,000 and he will skate.
Now State knows they have a person who broke the rules on their team and they don't have to do shite about it.
If that isn't twisted logic I don't know what is.
It's twisted logic to think that Leo Lewis is the final straw that broke the camel's back when there are over dozen more Level 1 allegations on the table today.
I hope like hell the folks in charge at OM aren't spinning their wheels on this one little Level 1 with Lewis.
They need to be burning the midnight oil trying to build a defense for the Lack of Institutional Control and Failure to Monitor anvil that hit 'em in the head last week.
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:39 pm to RT1941
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I hope like hell the folks in charge at OM aren't spinning their wheels on this one little Level 1 with Lewis.
That's the real point. If OM is able to reduce the dollar amount of Allegation 4 down to $50 from $15,000, it
wil still be a LEVEL I violation.
This post was edited on 3/3/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 3/3/17 at 3:44 pm to Vecchio Cane
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