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re: Do you Guys still Consider LSU Elite?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:01 pm to SmokeTide
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:01 pm to SmokeTide
No. we haven't been the same since 1/9/12.
We're a top 25 team since with top 5 talent. But with the right coach we're back overnight. I don't think opposing fan bases understand how undiciplined and poorly coached we've been for the last 5 years. They haven't had to watch all the games and plays our fan base has watched. It was terrible.
We have more players in the NFL then any other school.....yet we continually lose 3-5 games a year. A blind man can see the light on this.
We're a top 25 team since with top 5 talent. But with the right coach we're back overnight. I don't think opposing fan bases understand how undiciplined and poorly coached we've been for the last 5 years. They haven't had to watch all the games and plays our fan base has watched. It was terrible.
We have more players in the NFL then any other school.....yet we continually lose 3-5 games a year. A blind man can see the light on this.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:03 pm to JuiceTerry
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Elite programs don't have interim coaches
Stupidest comment in the thread.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:04 pm to SmokeTide
LSU fans have unrealistic expectations. They think their new coach is going to come in next year and compete for the National Championship. Those unrealistic expectations are the #1 problem with LSU football.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:05 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Notre Dame USC OU Ohio State Texas Michigan (won more games than any other team) Nebraska (falling off sharply)
All play in shitty conferences that half the SECw teams could of won every year.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:09 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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You missed the "blue blood type" qualifier. LSU has never been considered that.
If that's your standard, then no one will ever be considered elite again that not among those teams. Also need to remove several of those "blue bloods" as teams like Norte Dame haven't done shite in years. They are always ranked way higher than they should be.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:11 pm to Othello
quote:well LSU has competed for the national championship 3 times in the last 12 seasons while also going to the SEC championship in 2005, and we're last minute touchdown against Alabama from going again in 2012. Being the SEC champion makes you a NC contender. The past few years have been tough by LSU standards becausethe game passed up Les Miles. LSU has recruited better than any SEC team other than Alabama over the last 3 years though so it's not far fetched to believe LSU will be very good with the right coach. Anyone who believes otherwise is just being a miserable troll.
LSU fans have unrealistic expectations. They think their new coach is going to come in next year and compete for the National Championship. Those unrealistic expectations are the #1 problem with LSU football.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:11 pm to Othello
Did you think that through when you typed it? The standard is excellence. That is a national championship. Don't act like Alabama is the only team to have figured that out. Alabama and LSU are not that far apart in regards to talent on the field (with the exception of OL and QB - light years apart). Overall the difference is minute. The biggest difference is coaching. Alabama has (arguably) the GOAT. Period.
Arrogance personified. Seriously.
Arrogance personified. Seriously.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:13 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
quote:An Alabama fan playing the role of snob. I have seen everything.
the "blue blood type"
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:21 pm to SmokeTide
I'm not trying to flame but Saban will be gone one day.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:21 pm to Othello
Talent is there. Not crazy to think that a competent coach makes a contender. It's actually rational
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:29 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
Ok. We're number 2. You get the point
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:33 pm to Othello
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LSU fans have unrealistic expectations. They think their new coach is going to come in next year and compete for the National Championship. Those unrealistic expectations are the #1 problem with LSU football.
Having Saban for a few short years have warped their perspective on their historical and current significance.
Les Miles really backed into the 2nd one, only driving the point home.
Yes, they are elite, in that they get elite talent. But they've been wasting it. Getting the right coach will be key.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:35 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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We have more players in the NFL then any other school.
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According to these 2 souces, that would be Alabama
At beginning of season, LSU had 1 more player. Now, Alabama has 1 more.
Things change during the season.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:42 pm to Grievous Angel
quote:Is this really an argument you want to make?
backed into
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:57 pm to Red Drum
Good post Red Drum. I agree 100%. Good luck with your cocking search, LSU deserves a top notch coach.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:00 pm to Wolfhound45
We didn't expect Saban to win it in his first year though just because Shula recruited really well. And Saban didn't win one till his third year, even though he had already won a title at another SEC school.
I'm just saying it's unrealistic to expect your new coach to come in and win it all next year.
I'm not saying that shouldn't be the goal but it should not be the expectation next yesr.
I'm just saying it's unrealistic to expect your new coach to come in and win it all next year.
I'm not saying that shouldn't be the goal but it should not be the expectation next yesr.
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:01 pm to Wolfhound45
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Is this really an argument you want to make?
Touche. But this isn't really about Alabama being elite. Alabama was in 2006. Just in the wilderness.
The last 10 years have just amped it up.
You lost to KENTUCKY and Arkansas at home--and lucked into the championship. Was anyone at the time more deserving? Maybe not. We "backed in" as a one loss against the then #1 team in the country. Different story, different argument.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:07 pm to SmokeTide
Well we thought they would be. Particularly after they landed Ben Simmons. But he not only turned out to be a one and done but a particularly lazy one and done.
LSU deserved better them him in all honesty. They are still a good team coming into this season but I think the Simmons Experiment delayed them. The talent is there to be a very good basketball team but but they need to move away from one and done fixes to building a long term program.
LSU deserved better them him in all honesty. They are still a good team coming into this season but I think the Simmons Experiment delayed them. The talent is there to be a very good basketball team but but they need to move away from one and done fixes to building a long term program.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 9:08 pm to SmokeTide
Inconsistent, underachieving. Not that hard. Awful question is awful.
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