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Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:36 am to 1BamaRTR
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And I don't want Hillary to win nor do I think she's a lock. I'm criticizing you because you're a hypocrite and annoying.
ok, how am I hypocrite? You resort to these kind of vague empty rhetoric attacks, which I find annoying. Say something specific.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 12:36 am to MIZ_COU
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this guy needs a post review
this is how liberals view speech they don't like. it needs to be monitored and then censored.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:18 am to Tillman
Because you're getting mad that people are calling you racist even though you have said nothing to suggest that. Yet you keep making accusations on other people without much to back it up.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:19 am to 1BamaRTR
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Because you're getting mad that people are calling you racist even though you have said nothing to suggest that. Yet you keep making accusations on other people without much to back it up.
it is not illogical to assume that a person constantly dumping on Trump, and doing it with talking points that liberals are using, is a liberal.
calling somebody a liberal is not the same thing as calling somebody a racist.
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:19 am to Tillman
Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:29 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Obama crushing it
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“Don’t act like this started with Donald Trump,” Obama told state Democrats at their annual dinner. “He did take it to a whole new level, I’ve got to give him credit. But he didn’t come out of nowhere.”
Obama aimed most of his criticisms past the GOP nominee and at Republicans who allowed conspiracy theories and the anger of the party’s base to grow to the point that Trump was able to commandeer it. That includes those who un-endorsed Trump, as Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) did on Saturday, after a 2005 video revealed Trump bragging about using his fame to assault women.
“They don’t get credit for, at the very last minute, when finally the guy that they nominated and they endorsed and they supported is caught on tape saying things that no decent person would even think, much less say, much less brag about, much less laugh about or joke about, much less act on,” Obama said at the dinner.
“You can’t wait until that finally happens and then say, ‘Oh, that’s too much, that’s enough,’ and think that somehow you are showing any kind of leadership and deserve to be elected to the United States Senate,” he continued. “You don’t get points for that. In fact, I’m more forgiving of the people who actually believe it than the people who know better and stood silently by out of political expediency.”
If Trump was running around saying I wasn’t born here, they were okay with that as long as it helped them with votes. President Barack Obama
Other Republicans also un-endorsed Trump after his 2005 remarks were uncovered, although some have since switched back and said they would vote for Trump.
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) still endorses Trump, but said he would no longer defend him, while Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has avoided speaking on the matter. In the days since the video was published, multiple women have alleged they were sexually assaulted by Trump, which he has denied.
Obama questioned the Republican message: “You claim the mantle of the party of family values and this is the guy you nominate?”
He accused Republicans of laying the groundwork for Trump by “feeding their base all kinds of crazy for years, primarily for political expedience.”
One example was Trump’s long-running lie that Obama wasn’t born in the U.S. ? an attack on the first black president that most Republicans declined to condemn. Trump took until last month ? well after the GOP nominated him ? to acknowledge he believes Obama was born in the U.S.
“If Trump was running around saying I wasn’t born here, they were okay with that as long as it helped them with votes,” Obama said. “If some of these folks on talk radio started talking about how I was the antichrist, ‘Well, you know, it’s just politics.’ You think I’m joking.”
Obama also criticized Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. Greg Abbott for fueling a conspiracy theory that the president was attempting to launch martial law in Texas, pretending they didn’t know about a military training exercise.
“What do you mean, you don’t know? What does that mean? Really? You think that like, the entire Pentagon said, ‘Oh, really, you know, you want to declare martial law and take over Texas? Let’s do it under the guise of routine training missions,’” Obama said. “They took it seriously. This is in the swamp of crazy that has been fed over and over and over again.”
Obama said that’s why the Republican Party is where it is today.
“They stood by while this happened,” he said. “And Donald Trump, as he’s prone to do, he didn’t build the building himself, but he just slapped his name on it and took credit for it.”
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 6:56 am to Hugo Stiglitz
Clinton will win, America will lose
Posted on 10/14/16 at 7:06 am to Hugo Stiglitz
quote:God. Damn.
“They stood by while this happened,” he said. “And Donald Trump, as he’s prone to do, he didn’t build the building himself, but he just slapped his name on it and took credit for it.”
Posted on 10/14/16 at 10:06 am to Tillman
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it is not illogical to assume that a person constantly dumping on Trump, and doing it with talking points that liberals are using, is a liberal.
Go look at my posts in this thread. I've never dissed Trump while liking Hillary. You're the one making the assumptions here.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:09 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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“They don’t get credit for, at the very last minute, when finally the guy that they nominated and they endorsed and they supported is caught on tape saying things that no decent person would even think, much less say, much less brag about, much less laugh about or joke about, much less act on,” Obama said at the dinner.
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“They stood by while this happened,” he said. “And Donald Trump, as he’s prone to do, he didn’t build the building himself, but he just slapped his name on it and took credit for it.”
for the record, until Cruz dropped out, Trump won no closed primaries. which says republicans weren't voting for him en masse. crossovers did. Repubs are a bunch of dumbnut hypocrites for sure, but don't put Trump on them.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:21 am to 3nOut
I do somewhat agree. Trump did mostly benefit from a crowded field, but the overall point is Trump is the result of years of dog whistling from Republicans. They own this, despite how he won the primary. He is the embodiment of a lot of the Republican Party's message over the past 30 years, though they were more coded with their message that Trump has been.
Trump didn't happen in a one year vacuum. He just capitalized on the environment so many before him cultivated. The Lee Atwaters, Newt Gingriches, Ronald Reagans, Karl Roves, etc.
Trump didn't happen in a one year vacuum. He just capitalized on the environment so many before him cultivated. The Lee Atwaters, Newt Gingriches, Ronald Reagans, Karl Roves, etc.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:50 am to The Spleen
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Trump didn't happen in a one year vacuum. He just capitalized on the environment so many before him cultivated. The Lee Atwaters, Newt Gingriches, Ronald Reagans, Karl Roves, etc.
I think it was Gingrinch's "Contract with America" in 1994 that cemented the polarization we see today. The resulting "Republican Revolution" ended an era that saw conservative, moderate and liberal views within each party. Moderation was ejected from both parties as the Republicans became staunchly conservative and Democrats liberal as a reaction.
We've been engaged in a political civil war ever since. Now Trump and the governor of Kentucky ("blood shed may be necessary") are intimating that violence may be necessary if Hillary Clinton is elected.
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Rather than campaigning independently in each district, Republican candidates chose to rally behind a single national program and message fronted by Georgia congressman Newt Gingrich. They alleged Clinton was not the New Democrat he claimed he was during his 1992 campaign, but was a "tax and spend" liberal. The Republicans offered an alternative to Clinton's policies in the form of the Contract with America.
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The 1994 election also marked the end of the Conservative Coalition, a bipartisan coalition of conservative Republicans and Democrats (often referred to as "boll weevil Democrats" for their association with the U.S. South), which had often managed to control Congressional outcomes since the New Deal era.
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Posted on 10/14/16 at 11:57 am to The Spleen
There was a lot of anti-establishment sentiment in the primary. Drumpf won because he was appealing directly to a section of the Republican base that they are normally too polite and sensible to make direct appeals to (because, to anyone not in that part of the base, it looks ugly). So he had about a third of Republican primary voters squarely behind him and there were more than a dozen other candidates splitting the vote.
The only obvious person that could have stopped him was Jeb Bush, who ran a weak enough campaign that his endorsement from his own mother said he was one of her four favorite children. The second place candidate was Ted Cruz, and as far as I know no one who’s ever met him likes Ted Cruz (I know a beltway insider from another forum that remembers him from his Harvard days. Didn't like him then, went on to work for Rob Portman and straight up loathes the guy now).
So basically it was a candidate with a large voting block against a divided field in a winner takes all race. And the person who was able to coalesce the next largest voting block was really disliked.
The only obvious person that could have stopped him was Jeb Bush, who ran a weak enough campaign that his endorsement from his own mother said he was one of her four favorite children. The second place candidate was Ted Cruz, and as far as I know no one who’s ever met him likes Ted Cruz (I know a beltway insider from another forum that remembers him from his Harvard days. Didn't like him then, went on to work for Rob Portman and straight up loathes the guy now).
So basically it was a candidate with a large voting block against a divided field in a winner takes all race. And the person who was able to coalesce the next largest voting block was really disliked.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 1:24 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
I haven't read all the posts yet, but I am working through them. Thanks Hugo for putting this up. 
I will be voting Libertarian or Trump. Still working that out. I will not vote for Hillary. Amongst the multitude of reasons for that, her repeated, public, announcements of intent to remove Constitutional rights are chief.
That said, I read this article, 2012 Voter Fraud and it concerns me greatly. It isn't a bunch of opinion. It has links to actual voting records, so you can see for yourself what he is saying is factual. Rigged voting software is also alleged, with multiple corroborating testimonies in support. What do we do if we witness this actually happening to us this November?
I will be voting Libertarian or Trump. Still working that out. I will not vote for Hillary. Amongst the multitude of reasons for that, her repeated, public, announcements of intent to remove Constitutional rights are chief.
That said, I read this article, 2012 Voter Fraud and it concerns me greatly. It isn't a bunch of opinion. It has links to actual voting records, so you can see for yourself what he is saying is factual. Rigged voting software is also alleged, with multiple corroborating testimonies in support. What do we do if we witness this actually happening to us this November?
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:24 pm to PurpleandGeauld
Clinton is now within the margin of error in Texas.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:30 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 10/14/16 at 2:54 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:10 pm to Kentucker
I'm kinda expecting another bomb to drop on Trump in the next few hours. It's Friday afternoon.
Posted on 10/14/16 at 3:25 pm to pvilleguru
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Clinton will win, America will lose
I think we lose regardless of who wins.
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“They stood by while this happened,” he said. “And Donald Trump, as he’s prone to do, he didn’t build the building himself, but he just slapped his name on it and took credit for it.”
God. Damn.
That's a mic drop moment if I ever heard one. Boom.
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