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re: Tennessee is historically the #2 school in the SEC

Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:08 am to
Posted by BigOrangeVols
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:08 am to
I upvoted
Posted by DannyB
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:13 am to
UT's record against other Big 6 members:

Bama: 38-52-7 42.8%
Auburn: 21-28-3 43.3%
Florida: 20-26 43.5%
Georgia: 23-21-2 52.2%
LSU: 20-9-3 67.2%

Combined record: 122-136-15 47.4% (that is counting a tie as half win/half loss)

Combined record against the lil 4 original members (OM, MSU, Vandy, KY):
225-90-16 70.4% (same criteria as above)

Combined record against the newbies (Arky, USC, Mizzou, A&M):
41-15-2 72.4% (same criteria as above)

For comparison -

Auburn record against other Big 6 members:

Bama: 35-44-1 44.4%
Florida: 43-38-2 53%
Georgia: 55-56-8 49.6%
LSU: 21-28-1 43%
Tennessee: 28-21-3 56.7%

Combined record: 182-187-15 49.3%

Combined record against the lil 4 original members (OM, MSU, Vandy, KY):
137-63-4 68.1%

Combined record against the newbies (Arky, USC, Mizzou, A&M)
26-18-1 58.9%

Auburn has not even played the lil 4 original members as many times as Tennessee has beaten them.

Auburn has more wins against UGA than Tennessee has played them.

Auburn has beaten Florida only 3 less times than total number of games between UT and UF.


This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 6:14 am
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:29 am to
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Hmmm... This deserves it's own thread: Big 6 all-time record vs. other Big 6.

I'm sure it's been done, but I've yet to see it.

Alabama
Auburn: 44-35-1
Florida: 25-14
Georgia: 38-25-4
LSU: 50-25-5
Tennessee: 52-38-7
209-137-17 (59.917%)

Auburn
Alabama: 35-44-1
Florida: 43-38-2
Georgia: 55-56-8
LSU: 22-28-1
Tennessee: 28-21-3
183-187-15 (49.481%)

Florida
Alabama: 14-25
Auburn: 38-43-2
Georgia: 42-49-2
LSU: 31-28-3
Tennessee: 26-20
151-165-7 (47.833%)

Georgia
Alabama: 25-38-4
Auburn: 56-55-8
Florida: 50-42-2
LSU: 13-16-1
Tennessee: 21-23-2
165-174-17 (48.736%)

LSU
Alabama: 25-50-5
Auburn: 28-22-1
Florida: 28-31-3
Georgia: 16-13-1
Tennessee: 9-20-3
106-136-13 (44.118%)

Tennessee
Alabama: 38-53-7
Auburn: 21-28-3
Florida: 20-26
Georgia: 23-21-2
LSU: 20-9-3
122-137-15 (47.263%)

Wins
Alabama: 209
Auburn: 183
Georgia: 165
Florida: 151
Tennessee: 122
LSU: 106

Win %
Alabama: 59.917%
Auburn: 49.481%
Georgia: 48.736%
Florida: 47.833%
Tennessee: 47.263%
LSU: 44.118%

This post was edited on 10/4/16 at 5:58 pm
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:35 am to
God the 90's were brutal for LSU
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 6:35 am to
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And if UGA had chubb and Florida had del Rio they would be 0fer against the east this year, too.


Lmao Luke Del Rio is more important than Cam Sutton, Darrin Kirkland Jr and Jalen Reeves-Maybin combined guise
Posted by jbrau22
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:33 am to
I just want to point out that Bama has won at an 81% clip and no one else is at or above 50%....pretty damn impressive
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 7:36 am to
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Lmao Luke Del Rio is more important than Cam Sutton, Darrin Kirkland Jr and Jalen Reeves-Maybin combined guise


Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:31 am to
quote:

They scurred, they should just say they scurred



Win a game convincingly.

Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:32 am to
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That rep is built on ducking the other members of the Big 6 more than any other of the Big 6 teams except LSU. Even then, UT has an 11 game lead on LSU, 1 game lead on UGA, and has losing records to Alabama, Auburn, and Florida.

Auburn has played the most games against the rest of the Big 6 followed by Bama at #2.


The Big 6 has not always been the same "Big 6". Historically, Florida was not the powerhouse brand it is today. Florida didn't hit "Big 6" until the late 90s, early 2000s and cemented there with the Urban run.

Go back far enough, and Vandy is "Big 6". It's a fluid group, not a static one. Yeah, Alabama has been there for almost the entire time, but not always #1.

To measure, however:
98 games vs Alabama
52 games vs Auburn
46 games vs Florida
46 games vs UGA
32 games vs LSU

Well... maybe you have a point, though considering how weird scheduling used to be I'm not sure "ducking" is the best term.

65 games against Ole Miss, probably the next closest to "Big 6" historically.

Your post had me curious about Neyland's run. Interesting tidbit on just how good a coach he was:

Alabama's overall record during Neyland's first two stints (1926-1934, 1936-1940) was 88-10-3. Tennessee's record against us was 7-4-1. That means that Alabama was a whopping 84-3-2 against everyone else. (We were still "good" during his last stint, but nowhere near the mark listed above). Oh, to be fair - Alabama was the team that beat him the most during those years.

Dang, Neyland was good. Makes me wish he could have gone against Bryant during his time at Alabama. That would have been epic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:38 am to
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As previously noted: Since 1970, around the time SEC teams were integrated, UT is 5th in the SEC in winning pct and 6th in number of conference titles.

UT's "history" of being #2 in the conference was from the whitebread years way back in the 1920s and 1930s.
Yep. UT is 13-1-2 against LSU pre 1970

They are 7-8-1 post 1970. They did dominate in the 30s and 40s
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:39 am to
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Win %
Alabama: 80.991%
Auburn: 49.481%
Georgia: 48.736%
Florida: 47.833%
Tennessee: 47.263%
LSU: 44.118%


Man, I'm a Bama fan, but your math is WAY off.

Our winning % is 59.917%

Still 10 points higher than everyone else, but still. Nowhere near 80+.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:43 am to
I would also like to point out that 31% of our big 6 games are against Bama. So naturally, that drops our percentage
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:27 am to
quote:

head to head vs. Other SEC teams.

They have losing records to 4 other SEC teams, even LSU isn't that bad.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:29 am to
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One of the things I like to point out is that when the players were pretty much real students and residents of the states in which their universities lie, Tennessee totally kicked arse.



LSU and Tennessee are dead even since they started letting the brothers play.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:31 am to
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People got too comfortable with the 5-7 Dooley Vols. Should've known that wasn't gonna last.


I was comfortable with the shite stain teams Butch fielded for a while too.


'grats on escaping Athens w/ a signature win over a 1st year head coach and QB.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:32 am to
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signature win


Lol no.
Posted by Volunteers
Member since Jun 2016
149 posts
Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:35 am to
But we're winning. I'll take it for now considering how dark the last decade has been.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:52 am to
I'll take 2 in a row and ripping out Geor2ia fans' hearts in the most brutal way possible
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:58 am to
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was comfortable with the shite stain teams Butch fielded for a while too.


'grats on escaping Athens w/ a signature win over a 1st year head coach and QB.






Did you type this in the nude? Because I'm responding to you in the nude.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 9:59 am to
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Dang, Neyland was good. Makes me wish he could have gone against Bryant during his time at Alabama. That would have been epic.




Would have been awesome
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