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re: Former LSU safety Eric Reid joins Kaepernick protest

Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:06 am to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:06 am to
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They have every single opportunity as anyone else



Opportunity is not equal in this country. Never has been and never will be. We're getting further away from a lot of that being based on race, and moving more towards it being based on wealth. To claim everyone born in this country has the same opportunity is pie in the sky talk.


And I'm not saying it should be. It would be nice if it was, but it's impossible to attain. Someone born into wealth has an infinite amount more opportunity than someone born into poverty.
Posted by DonBro
Omaha NE
Member since Dec 2012
496 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:07 am to
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Individual people of every race are racist. Our society is not racist. Every race has the right to better themselves by just getting an education.

Let's examine your theory. You said individuals of every race are racist. Give an example of when you experience racism. I just want to see how you view racism
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37309 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:09 am to
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Give an example of when you experience racism


'Experienced', Dumbro.


Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3973 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:09 am to
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You don't have to scream and yell to get your point across


I didn't say you did but sitting on your arse to protest blacks being oppressed while surrounded by black millionaires seems a bit reaching. Wanna so done good? How about you go to a poor, violent black community and spend some time and money improving schools or housing? Or continue to sit on your arse during the anthem and accomplish nothing except alienate yourself from the fanbase that pays the bills. It's a free country so either way works for me.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:09 am to
I don't think Kap has said he himself has been a victim of oppression. Maybe Reid has, I don't know. Their using their status as visible NFL players to stand up for those they think are oppressed.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:11 am to
Well why are they so poor? It isn't the polices fault. It's not republicans fault either.

High abortion rates, which I'm fine with abortions, high single parent house holds, less education.

In America you will only stay poor if you refuse education and accept the gov handout as a way of life instead of temporary life line.

So kap and Reid are protesting something they have no clue about or the causes. It's a stupid protest. They should be calling for safe sex, marriage, and staying in school. Something both of them know about.
Posted by Roberteaux
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
5945 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:11 am to
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It's pathetic and shameful.


it's really not. I've always thought that recreational outrage was only practiced by liberal sjw types, but the (mostly) right's knee jerk reaction to Kaepernick and Reid silent protest shows how ridiculous conservatives can be too. The BLM idiots rioted, looted, and destroyed entire city blocks; and everyone told them to protest peacefully. Kaepernick and Reid are protesting peacefully, and now people lose their shite over it. It's not like they're flipping the bird at the flag or something, they're quietly sitting down. Stop being butt hurt over this
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45667 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:11 am to
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Or continue to sit on your arse during the anthem and accomplish nothing except alienate yourself from the fanbase that pays the bills.


Their actions have sparked quit a bit of discussion, wouldn't you?

You don't have to agree with their method, but to say it wasn't effect is just plain wrong.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:12 am to
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Let's examine your theory. You said individuals of every race are racist. Give an example of when you experience racism. I just want to see how you view racism


I never said that I have experienced racism but that doesn;t mean that it doesn't exist.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:13 am to
Wrong, have you ever tried to get financial aid for school? Hint; if you come from middle class money good luck. If you come from nothing you will get the money.

No one can stop you from becoming successful here. It doesn't mean you will be you have every right and every opportunity.
The poorest kid in America still gets free school and a shot at going to college.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:13 am to
There are a ton of examples where policy has prevented poor people from digging out of poverty. I definitely don't feel like going down that route today, though. I shouldn't have even engrained myself in this thread honestly. I'm going to discuss football now, since LSU plays tomorrow.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:15 am to
Whose policies though? Not police policy and its the lefts policy. Either by fault or accident.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:15 am to
Agree completely. I was a victim of the "barely middle class so no grant for you".

I'm more referring to the judicial system. Private prisons, felons unable to vote, war on drugs, etc

But again, I'm going back to football. Y'all have fun in here. Ima enjoy this Friday.
Posted by tigahland
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2016
3283 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:17 am to
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I shouldn't have even engrained myself in this thread honestly.



Best thing you've said on this thread yet.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
66366 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:18 am to
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It's about BLM.

And generally speaking, the BLM movement has come with ignorant stances, vague demands, and a lack of identifying what legislatively needs to be changed.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:18 am to
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I almost brought that portion of the national anthem up earlier but decided against it because it seemed like a rabbit hole even I didn't want to go down.

Do you think Kaepernick is (or, at least when all this started) aware of the issues with the national anthem? Think he knows of verse we don't sing?

The fact that we've eliminated that verse tells you a lot. An issue was corrected.


Again, oppression is real. It isn't isolated to color. My biggest issue is that if we are going to stand up and take steps in the right direction to end oppression, let's begin by ending self oppression. Stop black on black crime. Stop abortion rates of African American children that are 5X the rate of pregnancies by other races (those unborn lives matter too...so does the life of the mother that is often abandoned by the father and left to deal with the pregnancy on her own). Stop re-electing officials who failed to deliver a semblance of the change and hope for African Americans that they promised. Stop looting and violence as a form of "protest" b/c it dilutes the argument. Stop abandoning the family and start STAYING and fighting for togetherness in the home, then the community, then the nation.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:19 am to
Agreed
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4089 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:20 am to
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He can get his point across without shitting all over the flag and the men and women who die to give him the right to be a douche


No one died for that. We aren't the only free country in the world.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:20 am to
We are on the exact same page man. I promise.
Posted by KCM0Tiger
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2011
15868 posts
Posted on 9/2/16 at 10:23 am to
LSU = SJW U
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