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Honest question re Ole Miss and NCAA....
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:37 am
if it is indeed 1-2 year post-season ban and 15-20 scholarships, with AD run pay schemes, can Hugh survive it?
Further, if he does survive, can he maintain what he built if his honey-hole is dry?
Further, if he does survive, can he maintain what he built if his honey-hole is dry?
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:40 am to WorkinDawg
Too many hypotheticals. Will have to wait and see what happens.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:41 am to WorkinDawg
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can Hugh survive it?
If all happens as you say, Hugh Freeze will receive a show cause. He will be gone, along with the entire staff (if all of that happens).
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:41 am to WorkinDawg
Not only will Hugh not survive this but Bdork will be gone as well.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:42 am to WorkinDawg
Already gone.
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:42 am to WorkinDawg
No coach could survive an AD run pay for play scheme... Dumb question.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:42 am to WorkinDawg
This doesn't answer your question but I have one too- what good would a 1 year post season ban provide? I guess I just think if you're gonna get punished get punished, one year pffft.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:43 am to WorkinDawg
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if it is indeed 1-2 year post-season ban and 15-20 scholarships, with AD run pay schemes, can Hugh survive it?
Depends on whether he gets a show cause or not.
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Further, if he does survive, can he maintain what he built if his honey-hole is dry?
Not at chance
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:43 am to WorkinDawg
nobody can answer that right now.
WTF is wrong with people? When they drop whatever the penalties are we'll know a little more but not even then.
Watch things play out from the sidelines and soak it in. That's my plan
WTF is wrong with people? When they drop whatever the penalties are we'll know a little more but not even then.
Watch things play out from the sidelines and soak it in. That's my plan
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:47 am to danfraz
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Honest question re Ole Miss and NCAA....
nobody can answer that right now.
WTF is wrong with people? When they drop whatever the penalties are we'll know a little more but not even then.
Watch things play out from the sidelines and soak it in. That's my plan
Bravo. I didn't think there were any objectional people left on this board
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:50 am to piggilicious
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what good would a 1 year post season ban provide?
Nothing, unless the team wins the conference or goes to a big bowl that year. Then it stings. The punishment is a good way to prevent a cheating program from benefitting from the current momentum before the other punishments decimate whatever they tried to build on top of cheating.
The main punishment is scholarship restrictions, or if the NCAA puts a show case on the coach forcing the program to fire him. All that separates programs in this sport are the coaches, so if you get your once in a lifetime coach and you are forced to fire him that is basically the modern death penalty.
Ole Miss knows that, which is why they aren't playing by the old rulebook. The old rulebook would have expected them to fire Freeze when they put out a voluntary punishment as a way to atone to the NCAA and hope to convince them to accept their suggestions for how to punish them. Ole Miss is kinda going "frick that, you are going to have to FORCE us to kill our program," which is very ballsy.
We will see how it plays out, up until now I have been rooting for them but I think it's probably better for the sport for them to get hammered. Whatever little parity Ole Miss is creating for itself goes away for every non blue blood ten fold if the Ohio Sts and Texass of the world think they can tell the NCAA to frick off too. It is the ultimate prisoner's dilemma.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:52 am to fillmoregandt
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Honest question re Ole Miss and NCAA....
nobody can answer that right now.
WTF is wrong with people? When they drop whatever the penalties are we'll know a little more but not even then.
Watch things play out from the sidelines and soak it in. That's my plan
Bravo. I didn't think there were any objectional people left on this board
My bad, I thought this is what grown men who follow college football way to closely did on the interwebs in June. I'll work hard to get butter.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 10:56 am to WorkinDawg
The only way Freeze isn't at Ole Miss is if he is show caused. Which is what morons think will happen.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:00 am to Vols&Shaft83
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Further, if he does survive, can he maintain what he built if his honey-hole is dry?
Not at chance
This is the kind of fear that we appreciate. Keep it up.
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:02 am to WorkinDawg
Of course he would survive. Like it or not, the biggest crime by far is the Saunders mess. Without that the rest of this would almost certainly result in minor punishment. If there is any scheming by other coaches or ADs then they fire them and move on, though I don't know that they get the proof they need.
Can he maintain? I dunno, its a challenge no matter what, ask Malzahn and Miles. Things can start to get away from you and Ole Miss isn't a traditional powerhouse. I think he can keep us competitive in the long term regardless but who knows.
Can he maintain? I dunno, its a challenge no matter what, ask Malzahn and Miles. Things can start to get away from you and Ole Miss isn't a traditional powerhouse. I think he can keep us competitive in the long term regardless but who knows.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:05 am to GnashRebel
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Like it or not, the biggest crime by far is the Saunders mess
It is, and people don't want to acknowledge that it happened a long time ago, was under a different staff/administration, and was minor compared to what Saunders was doing at ULL.
After that it's Tunsil and the FCA carpooler.
Posted on 6/3/16 at 11:07 am to cardboardboxer
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Ole Miss knows that, which is why they aren't playing by the old rulebook. The old rulebook would have expected them to fire Freeze when they put out a voluntary punishment as a way to atone to the NCAA and hope to convince them to accept their suggestions for how to punish them.
Nobody would fire a good coach for what Freeze is currently accused of. If you go down the list of accusations, there is literally nothing connected Freeze that is worthy of firing. Let's not be silly.
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