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re: The greatest dynasty in college football history, not close
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:13 pm to rmn9799
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:13 pm to rmn9799
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Before Saban, the last time they were ranked in the top 5 was 5th in 1994.
We were preseason/Week 1 #3 in 2000. We were #3 late in 2005. Those were with HCs Dubose and Shula.
I repeat, Dubose and Shula. Research is your friend.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:15 pm to IAmReality
I don't know. I think Florida State's run from 1990-2000 (11 years) may be more impressive if you consider the timing.
Alabama has dominated during a fairly turbulent time for a lot of programs. Since 2008, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee and Auburn have all had at least one losing season. Florida has had 3 different head coaches. Auburn has had 3 different head coaches. Tennessee has had 4 different head coaches. And Georgia has now hired its 2nd head coach during the period.
Florida State finished in the AP Top 4 every single season from 1990-2000. They were also ranked in every single AP Poll release during that time. While they only won 2 National Titles, college football was way more top heavy at that time.
From 1990-2000:
Florida State was ranked in 186 of 186 AP poll releases (100%)
Nebraska was ranked in 186 of 186 AP poll releases (100%)
Florida was ranked in 184 of 186 AP poll releases (98.9%)
Not one other program aside from Alabama has been rated in even 94% of the poll releases from 2008-2015. Oklahoma is next at 93.1%... but Bama has only played Oklahoma one time during this time period. LSU is 3rd at 92%. And while LSU has been strong from 2008-2015, they are no Florida or Nebraska during the '90s.
Florida State, Florida and Nebraska accounted for 5 of the 11 national titles during this 11-year stretch.
Florida State played Florida 13 times during this 11-year period. They also played Miami every season, who was ranked in 155 of 186 polls during that stretch... and also claimed a National Title in 1991.
Due to the fact that Florida State, Florida, and Miami were all beating each other up inside the same state... all while Nebraska was dominating and practically ranked in the Top 5 or 10 for a decade+... FSU's streak may be more impressive.
A record of 120-15-1 over that time period is pretty impressive considering how many top tier games they played in during that time.
Alabama has dominated during a fairly turbulent time for a lot of programs. Since 2008, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee and Auburn have all had at least one losing season. Florida has had 3 different head coaches. Auburn has had 3 different head coaches. Tennessee has had 4 different head coaches. And Georgia has now hired its 2nd head coach during the period.
Florida State finished in the AP Top 4 every single season from 1990-2000. They were also ranked in every single AP Poll release during that time. While they only won 2 National Titles, college football was way more top heavy at that time.
From 1990-2000:
Florida State was ranked in 186 of 186 AP poll releases (100%)
Nebraska was ranked in 186 of 186 AP poll releases (100%)
Florida was ranked in 184 of 186 AP poll releases (98.9%)
Not one other program aside from Alabama has been rated in even 94% of the poll releases from 2008-2015. Oklahoma is next at 93.1%... but Bama has only played Oklahoma one time during this time period. LSU is 3rd at 92%. And while LSU has been strong from 2008-2015, they are no Florida or Nebraska during the '90s.
Florida State, Florida and Nebraska accounted for 5 of the 11 national titles during this 11-year stretch.
Florida State played Florida 13 times during this 11-year period. They also played Miami every season, who was ranked in 155 of 186 polls during that stretch... and also claimed a National Title in 1991.
Due to the fact that Florida State, Florida, and Miami were all beating each other up inside the same state... all while Nebraska was dominating and practically ranked in the Top 5 or 10 for a decade+... FSU's streak may be more impressive.
A record of 120-15-1 over that time period is pretty impressive considering how many top tier games they played in during that time.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:16 pm to rmn9799
We were in the top 5 in 2005.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:16 pm to Sid E Walker
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We were preseason/Week 1 #3 in 2000. We were #3 late in 2005. Those were with HCs Dubose and Shula.
I repeat, Dubose and Shula. Research is your friend.
My bad. I thought we were talking about rankings that matter, but congrats on starting the season ranked #3 before finishing 3-8.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:20 pm to IAmReality
He's the GOAT, no question about that anymore.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:22 pm to rmn9799
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My bad. I thought we were talking about rankings that matter, but congrats on starting the season ranked #3 before finishing 3-8.
Thanks for moving your goalpost.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:33 pm to IAmReality
FSUs run was epic and one for the ages, but 4 natties vs. 2 is just not comparable.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:35 pm to BHMKyle
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I don't know. I think Florida State's run from 1990-2000 (11 years) may be more impressive if you consider the timing.
They're different kinds of impressive. The FSU years are from 1987 to 2000. It's an extremely impressive resume for that time period. We frequently had one loss seasons where the only loss came against the National Champion. Most of the losses during those years came to teams who finished in the top 5.
That said... we only produced two championships during those years. On some level, it feels like we were good like the Buffalo Bills from 1990-1993. Great year in, year out performances, but just missing (frequently wide right) winning it all.
I think, as of now, the FSU streak is the most impressive "long" dynasty; however, Alabama's is much more impressive in terms of performance over a shorter period of time. It's also ongoing.
I also think that in terms of the CFB environment, what Alabama has accomplished is perhaps the most impressive thing in CFB history. Recruiting has changed so much and teams that were never on the radar for recruits are now.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:36 pm to BHMKyle
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BHMKyleThe greatest dynasty in college football history, not close
by BHMKyle
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LSU is 3rd at 92%. And while LSU has been strong from 2008-2015, they are no Florida or Nebraska during the '90s.
While maybe not approaching Alabama from 2008-2015, or Florida, Florida State and Nebraska in the 1990s, LSU has held its own from 2000-2015, being one of only a couple of teams in the nation to do ALL of the following (together):
* Go to a bowl game every year since 2000 (winning 10)
* Have a winning season every year since 2000.
* Be ranked in the Top 25 a majority of weeks every week from 2000-2015, except for a few weeks in 2000, 2002, 2008, 2013, 2014. I believe we have made the final rankings every year except 2002.
* Played in 3 NC games and 5 SECC games (winning 6 titles.)
* Won 4 BCS bowls out of 5.
* Been in the Top 5 in recruiting at least 6 times, and in the Top 10 at least 10 times.
It should be noted that LSU was #12 in all-time NCAA victories and#10 in all-time bowl apps..........
""""""""""BEFORE"""""""""""" the year 2000.
(We are now 11th and 8th.)
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:42 pm to Sid E Walker
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Thanks for moving your goalpost.
There was no moving goal post. Your reading comprehension is terrible.
I was responding to someone saying that before Saban, Alabama was a top 5 program. I responded by saying they hadn't been ranked in the top 5 since 1994 or even highly with a few exceptions. It's very clear, in the context, this refers to the final polls.
I don't know who would ever care about pre-season rankings or where you are in the middle of a season for determining this. It's irrelevant.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 5:54 pm to rmn9799
quote:bullshite
It's very clear, in the context, this refers to the final polls.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 6:00 pm to IAmReality
This is an incredible time to be an Alabama graduate. But there were 0ther "dynasties" that may have been just as good or better. One needs some age to understand history I guess. Not everything happened yesterday.
Alabama: 8-years from 1959-1966
75 wins, 8 losses, 5 ties. 4 SEC championships, 3 National Championships and cheated out of one, 1966.
Alabama 11-years: from 1971-1981
117 wins, 15 losses, 1 tie. 9 SEC championships, 3 National Championships and cheated out of one, 1977.
Alabama: 8-years from 1959-1966
75 wins, 8 losses, 5 ties. 4 SEC championships, 3 National Championships and cheated out of one, 1966.
Alabama 11-years: from 1971-1981
117 wins, 15 losses, 1 tie. 9 SEC championships, 3 National Championships and cheated out of one, 1977.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 6:00 pm to pvilleguru
I'd respect FSU's run, if they hadn't pussed out of joining the SEC. Bowden even said he didn't want to have to play the tougher competition. Avoiding elite teams drops them a few points.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 6:01 pm to Sid E Walker
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I am imparting extra strong contentment your way Displaced.
I definitely need it after such a terrible year we had.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 9:00 pm to IAmReality
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Meet at Krystal's later and we can go over post in more detail?
I'll bring the weed
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:06 pm to rmn9799
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You sure about that? Before Saban, the last time they were ranked in the top 5 was 5th in 1994. 1994 to Saban era, they were ranked in the top 25 5 times (ineligible for one of those rankings) , only twice in the top 10.
You might want to Google that
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:11 pm to Old Money
Yes
We are witness to the greatest dynasty in football
North. Dakota state
We are witness to the greatest dynasty in football
North. Dakota state
Posted on 1/12/16 at 10:34 pm to MeatPants
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North. Dakota state
Dick-riding D-II...or "anyone but Alabama?" I suggestion you look up "Delaware." The Blue Hens kicked azz for decades. They were known as the "Alabama" of the division.
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