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re: What would Alabama be without Nick Saban?
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:54 pm to partywiththelombardi
Posted on 8/28/15 at 8:54 pm to partywiththelombardi
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They were going to pay a shite ton for somebody good.
now they would. However what if RichRod had decided to take the job? What if Mike Price wasnt a horndog idiot? Who knows.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:10 pm to MwanJohn94
The better question may be what would LSU be had Saban never gone there.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:45 pm to Iron Lion
Middle of the pack in the SECW.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 10:50 pm to BowlJackson
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Without an all-time coach like Saban or Bear, they're Shula/ Franchionne era level. Inconsisten, a couple good 10 win years, a couple bad 6 loss years, surrounded by a bunch of average years
so without Saban and Bear, Alabama is Auburn?
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:03 pm to MwanJohn94
Winningest team in SEC history
Most bowl wins nationally
Most NCs
Not bad
Most bowl wins nationally
Most NCs
Not bad
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:08 pm to RollTide1987
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Well...let's see.
When Mike DuBose was hired in 1996/1997, he was hired by an athletic director who pissed Stallings off so much that he resigned. Also at that time we had a university president who was looking to de-emphasize athletics. The DuBose hire was a bad one made by an incompetent AD who bowed to pressure from the fan base rather than doing a proper coaching search.
Dennis Franchione was actually a good hire. He turned a 3-8 Alabama team into a 7-5 one the following year, before producing Alabama's second best team of the 00s in 2002. That team was tough, physical, and would have finished the season 11-2 and in the Top 5 if not for Fran deliberately blowing the Iron Bowl. The way that team was playing by the end of the year, it could have beaten Georgia in a rematch in the SEC Championship Game had it been eligible.
Mike Shula was a desperation hire after the Mike Price scandal. Price would have been a good fit for Croyle and the offensive personnel at Alabama. But unfortunately he paid for a stripper using a university credit card. He was fired in the month of May, a time when no one of substance would have taken on that job. Shula showed some real balls taking on that job. He just lacked the experience and the skills required to grow and learn in the position.
All of this and you could have just said "we weren't very good".
The thing is, this goes for. Every. Single. Program. In the country. You are far more likely to have a "meh" hire after Saban. There aren't many programs who have had a very successful coach who hired another who came in and had similar success except 2 that I can think of off the top of my head. LSU and Oregon. This isn't to say that either of those programs are historically what Alabama is, but just that we both have gotten extremely lucky. The chances are far and away better that they slip back to mid tier for a while.
Btw, I excluded FSU simply because of the abysmal state that the program was left in prior to Jimbo's taking over. I'm speaking of coaches that left on their own terms and the program stayed relevant.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:32 pm to MwanJohn94
Alabama would still, somehow, probably have Lane Kiffin on staff.
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:37 pm to MwanJohn94
Great question. If we could all be honest with ourselves. Definitely Auburn's bitch, amirite?
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 8/28/15 at 11:39 pm to MwanJohn94
still GOAT
same as it ever was
same as it ever was
Posted on 8/29/15 at 12:02 am to MwanJohn94
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What would LSU be without Nick Saban?
Made it more interesting of a question for you.
Posted on 8/29/15 at 6:51 am to Fratigerguy
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There aren't many programs who have had a very successful coach who hired another who came in and had similar success except 2 that I can think of off the top of my head. LSU and Oregon
After Wallace Wade left Alabama, we hired Frank Thomas.
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