Started By
Message
re: Does Sumlin hold Chief to a different standard than Miles did?
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:09 pm to Mirthomatic
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:09 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
If a team is leading a game 7-0 going into the final minutes, only LSU fans think to themselves "Good job offense, now just don't screw this up, defense
So, as long and Chavis' D plays great for 58 minutes, it doesn't matter if aTm loses?
Y'all will love him then.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 1:10 pm
1
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:11 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
Every fan hopes their defense doesn't frick up in the final minutes. Only LSU fans excuse the offense for fricking up for all of the first 58.
Ah, ok I see what you are doing here. You created an argument that no one has made, ascribed it to "LSU Fans" and are now acting like someone has argued that for so long that you don't realize you're just arguing with yourself. Pretty much everyone has said that when the offense doesn't perform they need to be accountable. You just can't take "yes" for an answer. Stop arguing with yourself (or the hypothetical LSU fan argument that not a single person has adopted). It is old hat. Try to get remotely back on topic and add something smart to the conversation that actually someone has argued. Thanks.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:15 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
Only LSU fans excuse the offense for fricking up for all of the first 58.
How is having the lead in big games considered "fricking up" in Aggie's world?
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:22 pm to MightyYat
quote:
Riiight. So it would pretty much always be the offenses fault in your scenario. Got it.
Not at all. For example, you can certainly pin the 2013 Georgia loss on the defense. In that game, it was the defense sucking for 58 minutes (or more) of the game. Conversely, the offense played great, and shouldn't be faulted for failing to score a go-ahead TD on their final possession during the last two minutes of the game.
What is truly bizarre, and legitimately baffling to me, is when LSU fans will blame games like the 2014 Bama loss on the defense. In that game, the defense held Bama to their fewest points scored in regulation. It was the best any defense would perform against Bama all season. But the Tiger offense was terrible that day, and couldn't even make it to Bama's average points-given-up of 18. If the LSU offense had performed AVERAGE against Bama, they win in regulation.
But no, despite the offense looking inept for the majority of the game, many LSU fans blame the Tiger defense.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:25 pm to RB10
quote:
So, as long and Chavis' D plays great for 58 minutes, it doesn't matter if aTm loses?
Y'all will love him then.
If Chavis's D plays great for 58 minutes, Sumlin's offense will typically have put the game out of reach. If the defense plays great, but the offense doesn't do their part, then I'm going to blame the offense.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:27 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
If Chavis's D plays great for 58 minutes
Weren't you the guy that said that LSU's offense doesn't have a lead, the team does? Too funny.
ETA: yep, you sure were.
quote:
An "offense" doesn't have a lead. A team has a lead.
This post was edited on 1/20/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:28 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
If the LSU offense had performed AVERAGE against Bama, they win in regulation
Or, if the defense didn't let Bama go 55 yards in less than 50 seconds, LSU would have won in regulation.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:29 pm to therick711
quote:
Ah, ok I see what you are doing here. You created an argument that no one has made, ascribed it to "LSU Fans" and are now acting like someone has argued that for so long that you don't realize you're just arguing with yourself. Pretty much everyone has said that when the offense doesn't perform they need to be accountable. You just can't take "yes" for an answer. Stop arguing with yourself (or the hypothetical LSU fan argument that not a single person has adopted). It is old hat. Try to get remotely back on topic and add something smart to the conversation that actually someone has argued. Thanks.
This is literally the first post in response to one of mine that acknowledges the offense has to do their part.
And no, the LSU fan argument that I have described is not hypothetical. I have had an actual discussion with an actual LSU fan on TD who said that for each of the last three losses to Bama, it "wasn't on the offense" but it was because the "defense shite the bed".
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:30 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
And no, the LSU fan argument that I have described is not hypothetical. I have had an actual discussion with an actual LSU fan on TD who said that for each of the last three losses to Bama, it "wasn't on the offense" but it was because the "defense shite the bed".
you kept saying if the offense sucks for 58 minutes which is quite literally doesn't describe any of those games. So I'm not sure who you think adopted that argument. Maybe you can quote it because I'm not seeing it.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:34 pm to therick711
quote:
Weren't you the guy that said that LSU's offense doesn't have a lead, the team does? Too funny.
Yes, I was. And you'll notice that isn't contradicted by anything you quoted. A defense can play great for 58 minutes and the team STILL not have a lead. For example, in 2011, LSU played fabulous defense in the first game against Bama, but was tied 6-6 in regulation.
What was the point you thought you were making?
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:36 pm to RB10
quote:
Or, if the defense didn't let Bama go 55 yards in less than 50 seconds, LSU would have won in regulation.
Hell, why stop there? If they defense never let anyone score points at any time of any game, LSU would be undefeated. frick the defense for costing LSU all those championships!!11!!
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:37 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
What was the point you thought you were making?
That's funny, I keep thinking this about every post you've made.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:38 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
Hell, why stop there? If they defense never let anyone score points at any time of any game, LSU would be undefeated. frick the defense for costing LSU all those championships!!11
So, it's clear you have no concept of what the LSU fans in this thread are trying to discuss.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:41 pm to therick711
quote:
you kept saying if the offense sucks for 58 minutes which is quite literally doesn't describe any of those games. So I'm not sure who you think adopted that argument. Maybe you can quote it because I'm not seeing it.
No the offense didn't literally "suck for 58 minutes". That's just an expression to drive home the point that the offense performed relatively poorly for most the game, contrasted with how the defense performed relatively well (often outstanding) for most of the game.
Here is the actual argument I've run across on these boards:
LINK
quote:
That same defense shite the bed multiple times in big games over the years. The only time I've thought we had a GREAT defense under Chavis was 2011. The rest of the time we've been good with a glaring flaw or two that was always exposed at very inopportune times.
2012 Alabama wasn't on the offense. 2013 Alabama wasn't on the offense. 2014 Alabama wasn't on the offense. Those have been our big games. The D shite the bed in all 3.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:41 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
If Chavis's D plays great for 58 minutes, Sumlin's offense will typically have put the game out of reach. If the defense plays great, but the offense doesn't do their part, then I'm going to blame the offense.
Sure you will. Let that shite happen a few times and we'll see.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:42 pm to RB10
quote:
That's funny, I keep thinking this about every post you've made.
Can't say I'm surprised.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:44 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
Can't say I'm surprised
So you understand that everything you're posting makes no sense, yet you're doing it anyway? That's weird.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:45 pm to Tigerdew
quote:
Sure you will. Let that shite happen a few times and we'll see.
Giving up a score to lose 35-28? Sure, I'll blame the defense. Dropping a game 20-13 in OT? Offense will get the blame, 100% of the time. Football is no longer "three yards and a cloud of dust".
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:46 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:
2012 Alabama wasn't on the offense. 2013 Alabama wasn't on the offense. 2014 Alabama wasn't on the offense. Those have been our big games. The D shite the bed in all 3.
Fyi, 2012 and 2014 were definitely on the defense. In 2013 we got run out of the building in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 1/20/15 at 1:46 pm to RB10
quote:
So you understand that everything you're posting makes no sense, yet you're doing it anyway? That's weird.
No, it's just pretty clear you can't understand anything I'm saying. Probably not even this post.
Page 9 of 17
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News