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re: *** Official Fire Anthony Grant Part Deux ***
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:21 pm to Bear88
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:21 pm to Bear88
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I know everyone wants Grant gone( and rightfully so) but with Hall and Austin coming in I think we can be pretty good next year and it will be "put up it shut up" time for our AD.
Same shite gets said every year. "Hey, look at who's coming in. We should be decent next year." Yeah, until two or three players leave this summer like they do every year and then we realize we are paper thin depth wise and STILL don't have a post player who can score or anyone who can reliably hit an outside shot. And then one or two players inevitably get injured after losing against every decent early season OOC opponent. Next we go .500 in SEC play and get an NIT bid and start all over again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:30 pm to bamafan1001
If u only support a winner, u are not much of a fan.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:33 pm to Bear88
Normally every season I try to go to 4-5 SEC games at Coleman. This year I didn't even bother with it. The coaching depresses me.
Look at that Ole Miss game, Alabama was dominating them in the first half and then just fell apart. What happened other than Bama playing on Grants side of the court??
That happened all season.
Look at that Ole Miss game, Alabama was dominating them in the first half and then just fell apart. What happened other than Bama playing on Grants side of the court??
That happened all season.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:37 pm to bona fide
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Fans that can't support the players don't deserve a winning team or good players.
Saban believes that fans have a big impact on recruiting, on the games and on the overall health of a program. He has said this repeatedly since day one. I guess some "Bama bball fans" know better. Wimp never stopped saying the same while he was Bama's coach.
Right now, we have an inept coach and an AD who doesn't care, and just wants us to swallow it. I guess my question is: in what other way can a fanbase show that it isn't satisfied? Clearly the answer isn't to buy more season tickets, $6 cokes in leftover football souvenir cups and $8 chicken fingers while we watch the program take more and more steps backwards.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:44 pm to CaptSpaulding
Saying players who don't win don't deserve support is ignorant and childish. They are playing their best that they are taught. Sure it is frustrating to see the wY we lose some games but taking it out on the teams at UA is not the answer IMO
Posted on 3/13/15 at 8:56 pm to Bear88
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Saying players who don't win don't deserve support is ignorant and childish. They are playing their best that they are taught. Sure it is frustrating to see the wY we lose some games but taking it out on the teams at UA is not the answer IMO
I agree with this, and I dfinitely don't think that the players don't deserve the support. I think they deserve more. They deserve an athletic department that supports their sport and wants to invest in it. They deserve a coach that won't waste their only college career. Me saying to stop buying tickets isn't about taking any anger out on players, it's just the only way I know to make a statement to people in charge who only see dollar signs. I guess the players are collateral damage, and that sucks, but if someone has a better suggestion I'm all ears.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:22 pm to CaptSpaulding
Let's all agree that we are frustrated but there some people getting paid a lot of money to deal with these problems. If they can't fix it then they need to go.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:25 pm to CaptSpaulding
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Right now, we have an inept coach
yes, always has been
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AD who doesn't care,
I can't agree with this until after he doesn't fire Grant this year. Even then he may still care but just not be qualified or misguided. Not many ADs in the country would have done any differently than Battle did after the previous season.
quote:Making contact is a start and can't really hurt anything. In reality, there are a few that have the ADs ear. They are the ones that can make things happen. The casual fan has no say in the matter really.
in what other way can a fanbase show that it isn't satisfied?
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Clearly the answer isn't to buy more season tickets,
Buying season tickets or single tix, filling up Coleman is the absolute answer to becoming a great program. It's all part of "the process", that some may be familiar with.
What selling out Coleman does:
- energizes the players, which results in more wins.
- Helps recruiting
- Shows the AD/players/prospects that Bama fans do care about basketball.
I've already noted Saban and Wimp, but every great coached has told anyone who would listen how important butts in the seats are. Not sure why so many people overlook the "responsibility" of the fan to help a program when all the great minds in their respective sports state the importance.
If Coleman sold out every game this year, but miraculously had the same bad results or even worse. Does that mean the few people with influence would be happy with Grant, simply because the place is packed, no. They want a winning team and great coach, they don't donate etc. based on attendance.
Shula still played for a full house, a change was still made. Wins matter, not attendance.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:45 pm to bona fide
Boba Fide
Excellent post. Not showing up to me just means we don't care. It is frustrating to watch those early December games on tv and empty seats are everywhere
Excellent post. Not showing up to me just means we don't care. It is frustrating to watch those early December games on tv and empty seats are everywhere
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:46 pm to bona fide
Boba Fide
Excellent post. Not showing up to me just means we don't care. It is frustrating to watch those early December games on tv and empty seats are everywhere
Excellent post. Not showing up to me just means we don't care. It is frustrating to watch those early December games on tv and empty seats are everywhere
Posted on 3/13/15 at 9:55 pm to Bear88
What Auburn and Pearl are doing this week does not have a direct effect on what happens in Tuscaloosa, but I can assure you if Auburn was any good over the past decade or so, Bama sure would have stepped it up, too.
Bama needs the change and it must be done now.
Bama needs the change and it must be done now.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:13 pm to Bear88
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Saying players who don't win don't deserve support is ignorant and childish. They are playing their best that they are taught. Sure it is frustrating to see the wY we lose some games but taking it out on the teams at UA is not the answer IMO
Can agree to disagree. You arent entitled to fan support just because you took a scholarship to play a sport at Alabama. Yall keep bringing up Wimp and Saban....THEY WERE WINNNERS. People didnt support the basketball program because Wimp told them to. They did it because Wimp's teams won.
Im not saying you shouldnt go to to basketball games and cheer for the team. Im saying that the sheer fact that the players wear a jersey that says Bama on it doesnt mean they have earned any fan support.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:48 pm to Bear88
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If u only support a winner, u are not much of a fan.
I made it to two SEC games and 1 OOC game....and we are far from a 'winning' team so it looks like I get to talk shite.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 3:22 am to bamafan1001
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Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Players that dont win dont deserve anything. Empty arenas mean absolutely nothing when the fanbase has proven they will support a winner.
I don't care win or lose, but you have got to try. Keeping AG is just not trying in my eyes.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 8:17 am to LukeSidewalker
cecil today
There is plenty of unofficial word, of course, and you can choose any version of that you want. My observation on Friday night was that UA director of athletics Bill Battle was getting plenty of 11th-hour pressure from people seeking to make their position on the UA basketball program known. That was still the case Saturday and shows no sign of relenting.
There is plenty of unofficial word, of course, and you can choose any version of that you want. My observation on Friday night was that UA director of athletics Bill Battle was getting plenty of 11th-hour pressure from people seeking to make their position on the UA basketball program known. That was still the case Saturday and shows no sign of relenting.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 8:49 am to McGregor
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There is plenty of unofficial word, of course, and you can choose any version of that you want. My observation on Friday night was that UA director of athletics Bill Battle was getting plenty of 11th-hour pressure from people seeking to make their position on the UA basketball program known. That was still the case Saturday and shows no sign of relenting.
I've heard that too. Got a friend, who's father is a respected doctor, and he said this; Bill Battle and the interim president do not want to fire him, but they are getting tons of pressure from wealthy boosters from Birmingham to give him the boot.
We'll know who wins soon enough I guess.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 8:53 am to bona fide
The SEC kind of fricked us over with our home schedule this year. The only home game on a Saturday that started before 6PM was against Kentucky.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 10:18 am to pvilleguru
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The SEC kind of fricked us over with our home schedule this year. The only home game on a Saturday that started before 6PM was against Kentucky.
Is this the revised version "Well, attendance is low on Wednesday because of church,"?
Average length of a game is two hours. If you wanted to go, you could watch the game an be back in time for the 9:00. 9:30, 10:00 and 10:30 evening news programs.
Posted on 3/15/15 at 10:35 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Here's what our home SEC schedule looked like:
Texas A&M, Tuesday, 8PM
Kentucky, Saturday, 3PM
Auburn, Saturday, 7:30PM
Florida, Tuesday, 8PM
Missouri, Tuesday, 8PM
Vandy, Saturday, 7PM
Georgia, Saturday, 7PM
USC, Tuesday, 6PM
Ole Miss, Tuesday, 6PM
Montgomery is at least a 2 hour drive away. The only game I would have really been able to get to is Kentucky. All mid-week games are out of the question unless I want to leave work at least 1.5 hours early. Those 8PM start times I'm getting home after midnight. All the Saturday games, I'm getting home at 11PM at the very earliest. I would have gone to all of the home games on Saturday if they started between 11AM-5PM.
Texas A&M, Tuesday, 8PM
Kentucky, Saturday, 3PM
Auburn, Saturday, 7:30PM
Florida, Tuesday, 8PM
Missouri, Tuesday, 8PM
Vandy, Saturday, 7PM
Georgia, Saturday, 7PM
USC, Tuesday, 6PM
Ole Miss, Tuesday, 6PM
Montgomery is at least a 2 hour drive away. The only game I would have really been able to get to is Kentucky. All mid-week games are out of the question unless I want to leave work at least 1.5 hours early. Those 8PM start times I'm getting home after midnight. All the Saturday games, I'm getting home at 11PM at the very earliest. I would have gone to all of the home games on Saturday if they started between 11AM-5PM.
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