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re: Teams Claiming More National Championships Than They Should (Updated OP)
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:41 am to PurpleandGoldmember
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:41 am to PurpleandGoldmember
I'm gonna go on the record and surprise people here (especially UT fans). This is what each SEC program should claim:
Alabama 12 (1925 26 61 64 65 73 78 79 92 2009 11 12)
Tennessee 4 (1938 50 51 98)
Florida 3 (1996 2006 08)
LSU 3 (1958 2003 07)
Auburn 2 (1957 2010
Georgia 2 (1942 80)
Arkansas 1 (1964)
Ole Miss 1 (1960)
Texas A&M 1 (1939)
Alabama 12 (1925 26 61 64 65 73 78 79 92 2009 11 12)
Tennessee 4 (1938 50 51 98)
Florida 3 (1996 2006 08)
LSU 3 (1958 2003 07)
Auburn 2 (1957 2010
Georgia 2 (1942 80)
Arkansas 1 (1964)
Ole Miss 1 (1960)
Texas A&M 1 (1939)
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:43 am to Korin
quote:
I'm gonna go on the record and surprise people here (especially UT fans). This is what each SEC program should claim:
Alabama 12 (1925 26 61 64 65 73 78 79 92 2009 11 12)
Tennessee 4 (1938 50 51 98)
Florida 3 (1996 2006 08)
LSU 3 (1958 2003 07)
Auburn- Claims 2-Should Claim 8 (1910, 1913, 1914, 1957, 1958, 1983, 2004 and 2010)
Georgia 2 (1942 80)
Arkansas 1 (1964)
Ole Miss 1 (1960)
Texas A&M 1 (1939)
Fixed it for ya.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:44 am to Tigerman97
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No way Auburn looses to 1910 Harvard. Harvard wouldn't have scored on us. Only reason Auburn lost in Austin was the guys were out chasing skirts all night.
100 year old smack talk
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:45 am to PurpleandGoldmember
FYI, I updated the OP with:
Therefore the rankings of Teams by Championships they should claim is:
1. Alabama - 10
2. LSU - 3
2. Tennessee - 3
2. Florida - 3
5. Georgia - 2
5. Auburn - 2
7. Ole Miss - 1
7. Arkansas - 1
7. Texas A&M - 1
10. Vandy - 0
10. Miss St - 0
10. Mizzou - 0
10. Kentucky - 0
10. South Carolina - 0
Therefore the rankings of Teams by Championships they should claim is:
1. Alabama - 10
2. LSU - 3
2. Tennessee - 3
2. Florida - 3
5. Georgia - 2
5. Auburn - 2
7. Ole Miss - 1
7. Arkansas - 1
7. Texas A&M - 1
10. Vandy - 0
10. Miss St - 0
10. Mizzou - 0
10. Kentucky - 0
10. South Carolina - 0
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:45 am to Korin
Pretty good. I see you've imposed some hard line criteria - no love for Ole Miss 1959 or Auburn 1983. I am in agreement, though I think these teams should be remembered, as well.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:45 am to Tigerman97
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Fixed it for ya.
Y'all didn't get any selections for 1910, 14, 58, and 2004.
https://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2013/FBS.pdf (starts on page 74)
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:46 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:46 am to PurpleandGoldmember
quote:
FYI, I updated the OP with:
Therefore the rankings of Teams by Championships they should claim is:
1. Alabama - 10
2. LSU - 3
2. Tennessee - 3
2. Florida - 3
5. Georgia - 2
5. Auburn - 2
7. Ole Miss - 1
7. Arkansas - 1
7. Texas A&M - 1
10. Vandy - 0
10. Miss St - 0
10. Mizzou - 0
10. Kentucky - 0
10. South Carolina - 0
Why only 3 for UT?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:47 am to PurpleandGoldmember
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2. Tennessee - 3
frick you
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:47 am to TxTiger82
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Pretty good. I see you've imposed some hard line criteria - no love for Ole Miss 1959 or Auburn 1983. I am in agreement, though I think these teams should be remembered, as well.
Ole Miss only got 3 selections in 1959. Miami and Nebraska both had more selections than Auburn in 1983.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:48 am to PurpleandGoldmember
Nice troll, but Alabama was named national champions by both polls in 1964.
Arkansas has zero national championships.
Arkansas has zero national championships.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:49 am to Korin
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Ole Miss only got 3 selections in 1959. Miami and Nebraska both had more selections than Auburn in 1983.
Fair enough. The really difficult part is the idea that those teams were probably the "best" teams of those years. Hence, my comment about remembering them.
But sometimes the best team doesn't win. I mean just look at 01/09.
Kidding.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:49 am to PurpleandGoldmember
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Auburn - Claims 5 - Should Claim 2 (1957,2010)
Auburn is not doing this.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:51 am to Tornado Alley
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Nice troll, but Alabama was named national champions by both polls in 1964.
Arkansas has zero national championships.
False.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:51 am to Tornado Alley
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Nice troll, but Alabama was named national champions by both polls in 1964.
Didnt know there were only two polls, guess Bama doesnt have as many NC's as they claim
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:52 am to TxTiger82
quote:
Fair enough. The really difficult part is the idea that those teams were probably the "best" teams of those years. Hence, my comment about remembering them.
But sometimes the best team doesn't win. I mean just look at 01/09.
I think this is pretty objective and reasonable:
Alabama
1925 most selections
1926 most selections
1961 AP Coaches NFF most selections
1964 AP Coaches
1965 AP
1973 Coaches
1978 AP FWAA NFF
1979 AP Coaches FWAA NFF most selections
1992 Bowl Coalition
2009 BCS
2011 BCS
2012 BCS
Tennessee
1938 most selections
1950 most selections
1951 AP Coaches
1998 BCS
Florida
1996 Bowl Alliance
2006 BCS
2008 BCS
LSU
1958 AP Coaches most selections
2003 BCS
2007 BCS
Auburn
1957 AP most selections
2010 BCS
Georgia
1942 most selections
1980 AP Coaches FWAA NFF most selections
Arkansas
1964 FWAA most selections
Ole Miss
1960 FWAA most selections
Texas A&M
1939 AP most selections
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:53 am to Korin
you are also including in your count of "most selections", polls that didnt exist at the time, FWIW
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:54 am to NYCAuburn
Give me a couple of minutes and I'll remove the retroactive selections.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 10:00 am to NYCAuburn
quote:
you are also including in your count of "most selections", polls that didnt exist at the time, FWIW
Here we go, retroactive selections removed:
Alabama
1934 most selections (tied)
1961 AP Coaches NFF most selections
1964 AP Coaches
1965 AP
1973 Coaches
1978 AP FWAA NFF
1979 AP Coaches FWAA NFF most selections
1992 Bowl Coalition
2009 BCS
2011 BCS
2012 BCS
Florida
1996 Bowl Alliance
2006 BCS
2008 BCS
LSU
1958 AP Coaches most selections
2003 BCS
2007 BCS
Tennessee
1938 most selections
1951 AP Coaches most selections
1998 BCS
Auburn
1957 AP
2010 BCS
Georgia
1942 most selections
1980 AP Coaches FWAA NFF most selections
Arkansas
1964 FWAA most selections
Ole Miss
1960 FWAA most selections
Texas A&M
1939 AP most selections
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