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re: What are your views on the following issues?
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:59 pm to SCLibertarian
Posted on 8/13/14 at 11:59 pm to SCLibertarian
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Do you honestly think 12 random Americans are intelligent or sophisticated enough to determine whether a human being lives or dies? I sure as hell don't and I say that as a practicing attorney. Our Founders took the philosophies of Locke's social contract and Rousseau's will of the people and molded them with Montesquieu's separation of powers to create our current federalist system. If we are to sincerely adopt these philosophies, how can the State, whose existence is solely owed to the consent of the governed, tell the governed that murder is a crime, yet commit murder itself? This isn't even taking into account Blackstone's maxim. Humans make mistakes. You can't right a wrong with the death penalty. The fear of executing one innocent man is enough justification for its complete abolition.
The death penalty is capital punishment. Its about punishment for the most inhuman heinous crimes imaginable. It is about elimination of waste product from society so vile that destruction is warranted. I have zero problems with it if the accused is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt according to the law. Your comment relative to the 12 jurors is largely a conviction of of the judicial process of jury selection regarding choosing of a jury of ones peers. These 12 are by no means random. Anybody who has been called for jury duty will tell you that the attorneys vet these people thoroughly for sympathetic reasons. If your client still gets convicted, then the evidence likely is convicting. Not always, but almost always.
My only complaint about the death penalty is the pussification of it. This lethal injection stuff is nonsense. Gary Gilmore got shot. Cheap and Efficient. I like that.
And...Mr. lawyer, it shouldn't take 20 years on death row to execute a convicted killer. The folks in Singapore do it right. You get convicted, they hang you in the basement of the jail on the very next Friday morning. No muss, no fuss.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:05 am to Pavoloco83
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The death penalty is capital punishment. Its about punishment for the most inhuman heinous crimes imaginable. It is about elimination of waste product from society so vile that destruction is warranted. I have zero problems with it if the accused is proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt according to the law. Your comment relative to the 12 jurors is largely a conviction of of the judicial process of jury selection regarding choosing of a jury of ones peers. These 12 are by no means random. Anybody who has been called for jury duty will tell you that the attorneys vet these people thoroughly for sympathetic reasons. If your client still gets convicted, then the evidence likely is convicting. Not always, but almost always. My only complaint about the death penalty is the pussification of it. This lethal injection stuff is nonsense. Gary Gilmore got shot. Cheap and Efficient. I like that. And...Mr. lawyer, it shouldn't take 20 years on death row to execute a convicted killer. The folks in Singapore do it right. You get convicted, they hang you in the basement of the jail on the very next Friday morning. No muss, no fuss.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:13 am to Pavoloco83
You sound like you would fit right in in the middle east or China.
The Government is always right.
The Government is always right.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 12:37 am to Pavoloco83
After the Gregg case in the 1970's, states were forced to remake laws concerning capital punishment. Now, the death penalty can be sought if one is convicted of murder and there is an "aggravating circumstance" warranting death. Men and women are convicted of the underlying offense of murder every day based solely on circumstantial evidence. This is precisely why there are innocent men on Death Row. Just look at how many people the Innocence Project have gotten released based on a wrongful conviction. So forgive me for not wanting "the land of the free and the home of the brave" emulating Singapore, one of the most autocratic nations on the planet, when it comes to criminal justice and civil liberties. And while it may sound good to trumpet the horn of the lynch mob, were to we to take your approach, hundreds of innocent men would be wrongly executed. It amazes me the cognitive dissonance of many in this country, who complain about the government's inability to run a healthcare system, but think said government is competent to oversee the processes associated with the killing of another human being.
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