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re: Netflix documentary recomendations?

Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:40 am to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:40 am to
I guess this proves my memory of Mogray to be shoddy at best, though.

LINK

Damn, you were bad at the end.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 2:42 am
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:44 am to
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ETA: I guess I just can't think of a situation(IRL or here) in which I'd call out a dude in a conversation claiming to have seen a documentary when I thought he hadn't actually seen it based on his opinion of it. Calling that out just seems self serving in any situation.


His post was about how human nature won't allow the concepts in the documentary to be fulfilled, and that it's an idealistic pipe dream.

From that opinion it's apparent that he didn't watch it at all or didn't watch it closely. (He already admitted he didn't watch all of it, and what he did watch was in a doctors office, clearly he didn't really get to absorb it properly).

It's like saying rainbow and getting the response 'grey'. The critique of it just doesn't even make sense.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 2:46 am
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:44 am to
Yeah, I was purposely trying to get banned that day.

Thanks for your dedication, though.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:50 am to
I guess I get it.

To some people the rainbow is gray, or red, or green, whatever. Seeing a rainbow for what it is doesn't make you smarter than the color blind dude, it just means you can see what he can't.

Obviously, color blindness is a physical thing versus a mental thing, but some people see concepts as gray and some in color.

Yelling at the color blind dude because he doesn't see the brilliant hues of the rainbow kind of makes you suck. Realize you can see color and he can't and walk away.

Unless you think he's never seen the rainbow and he's just pretending to see it gray, in which case what the frick are you talking about? Whether to not he's even seen the rainbow? Seems counterproductive.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:51 am to
No, I probably didn't watch it as intently as you did.

Again though, what would you have me say? That I agree with their critiques? I do (for the most part, some of it was a little dramatic for my taste) but I believe the endgame is in essence idealistic because to change the problems at hand requires changing the way humans react to our reality.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:51 am to
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To some people the rainbow is gray, or red, or green, whatever. Seeing a rainbow for what it is doesn't make you smarter than the color blind dude, it just means you can see what he can't.


That's not really where I was going with it, bad analogy, my bad.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:51 am to
Thanks, it took a lot of effort to find that.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:53 am to
I guess what I'm saying is that since I'm smart I assume people don't see what I see in a lot of things, I accept it and move on.

ETA: or if I really care, I try to make them understand why I see what I see.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 2:56 am
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:56 am to
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but I believe the endgame is in essence idealistic because to change the problems at hand requires changing the way humans react to our reality.


How so?

Taking the power away from private commercial banks to create money out of nothing has nothing to do with human nature.

Changing the tax code to one that taxes consumption not income has nothing to do with human nature.

Those are two major changes that don't involve human nature, rather disrupting a long held power structure.

A concept that does involve human nature, moving away from corporations toward cooperatives has a lot to be said about, which isn't going to be said at this hour.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:57 am to
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Yeah, I was purposely trying to get banned that day.


Fine, but was being a complete a-hole to one of the best, most respected posters on this site (and I cant emphasize that enough, your posts in that thread were borderline disgusting) the best way you could have gone about accomplishing that? You couldn't have picked some retard on the politics board to go after?
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 2:58 am to
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I guess what I'm saying is that since I'm smart I assume people don't see what I see in a lot of things, I accept it and move on.

ETA: or if I really care, I try to make them understand why I see what I see.



Yeah, but you're not saying what you're saying. You're attempting to say (interpret) what I said.

I get what you said, it's just not quite where I was going. It was a bad analogy on my part.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:04 am to
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Fine, but was being a complete a-hole to one of the best, most respected posters on this site (and I cant emphasize that enough, your posts in that thread were borderline disgusting) the best way you could have gone about accomplishing that? You couldn't have picked some retard on the politics board to go after?


Are you honestly attempting to question me on something that happened like two years ago on a message board? I mean really..

And my definition of what's respectable might differ from you.. I guess I don't really get the respects over a guy who chats on a message board during his entire overnight shift while getting paid by taxpayers. To each his own, right?
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:05 am to
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Yeah, but you're not saying what you're saying. You're attempting to say (interpret) what I said.


I'm not trying to interpret anything.

I'm telling you that I know I'm smarter than almost everyone I encounter on a general basis, and I've found that the way to infect change or influence people and even enjoy their company is to not be a dick about it.

That's it. It took a lot of time for me to get it, but smashing knowledge into someone's head only serves to make the smasher feel like he's doing something, and the smashed will almost always resent it.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 3:10 am to
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I guess this proves my memory of Mogray to be shoddy at best, though.


Meh, mogray was a dick, but the solider thing was a little overused in that situation. Love tbird, but come on.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 5:55 am to
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I used this account for a couple months in other areas of this site with good dialogue, without the constant backlash and berating. Once it spread that I was Mogray it all came tumbling down. Nothing could be said without an incredible assortment of degrading. I likely feed of that in multiple ways and it effects my posting. To be clear, I'm not putting all the blame on others. 





Was I the first to out you as MoGray? Because it was fairly obvious that you were MoGray within a week of you posting as Sleeping Tiger, at least to me.

Was even more obvious when you created the Rodeonaut alter. You just have a very distinct posting style.

Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 6:50 am to
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Was even more obvious when you created the Rodeonaut alter. You just have a very distinct posting style.


His posting style is to fricking suck 100% of the time.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:12 am to
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His posting style is to fricking suck 100% of the time. 



Meh, only 99.7% of the time.



Hijack thread: I'm saddened by the fact that you didn't reply to my 10K post thread
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 7:24 am to
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I'm fresh out of blow and need a good documentary to watch.


Cocaine Cowboys
Posted by SEC. 593
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 8:37 am to
Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel" was made into a series on Nat Geo, not quite a documentary but very well done and on Netflix.

With that said read the book also.
Posted by Slippery Slope
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:09 am to
Sorry dog. I don't check this place as much as I usually do anymore.

Also, another documentary recommendation if you have Amazon is Better than Something: Jay Reatard.

quote:

For Jimmy Lee Lindsay, life was a mosh pit. Whether it was growing up among crack addicts on the rough side of Memphis, or his years in the rough-and-tumble underground rock scene of the '00s, the man the world came to know as Jay Reatard always had to fight in order to create, to grow, to live, to rise above. For the first time, filmmakers Alex Hammond and Ian Markiewicz tell Reatard's difficult, tragic, and ultimately inspiring story, tracing his steps from a poverty-stricken childhood to his teen years as a two-fisted tunesmith slugging it out with fans and band-mates alike to his final years as a surprisingly thoughtful and restlessly creative man. While Reatard died too young, his music-and the story that made it possible-is as vital and thrilling as ever. - Written by Steven Hyden


Crazy talented a-hole.
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