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re: Your school's first round NFL Draft selections since 1992
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:07 pm to cas4t
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:07 pm to cas4t
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Ingram and Trent are both busts.
Considering that both are still in the NFL that is way too soon to declare. Ingram average 4.9 YPC which was 8th in the NFL for guys with over 75 carries.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:07 pm to REBEL5 AC
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Saints fan here. F*** Ingram...terrible.
Won't know until Ingram goes to a team where he has a chance to be a feature back...as long as he's at N.O., with the success they've had under Payton's offensive system and with Brees at QB, that's not likely to happen...
Ingram's rushing numbers are similar to Bush's when he was at N.O.; in the 3 years since Bush left the Saints, he's had a couple of 1,000+ yard seasons and in the other he got something just short of that (980+)...Ingram's career yards per carry currently stands at 4.1 and in the NFL, that's certainly respectable...
I hope the Saints realize how "terrible" he is and release him so my Falcons can pick him up...I think he'd fit in just fine in our offense...
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:09 pm to OldPete
Ingram will never be a feature back. Bookmark it. And Bush is a much better back than Ingram, not to mention they are completely different backs.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:09 pm to StopRobot
solid edit, because your stats were wrong
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:13 pm to cas4t
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solid edit, because your stats were wrong
I know. I posted postseason stats and edited it for regular season stats
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:13 pm to OldPete
Bama fans still making excuses for Ingram
With Richardson it was, oh he's in Cleveland then he gets traded and he just needs to learn the playbook!
With Richardson it was, oh he's in Cleveland then he gets traded and he just needs to learn the playbook!
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:14 pm to Tuscaloosa
Wish you would have started it in '91...when UT had to tackles go back to back and three go in the first round.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:15 pm to hg
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Bama fans still making excuses for Ingram
How is pointing out his stats "making excuses"?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
You left off 2012 Mark Barron.
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Alabama
1993 - George Teague - DB - Packers
1993 - Eric Curry - DE - Buccaneers
1993 - John Copeland - DE - Bengals
1994 - Antonio Langham - DB - Browns
1997 - Dewayne Rudd - LB - Vikings
1999 - Fernando Bryant - DB - Jaguars
2000 - Shaun Alexander RB - Seahawks
2000 - Chris Samuels - OT - Redskins
2009 - Andre Smith - OT - Bengals
2010 - Kareem Jackson - DB - Texans
2010 - Rolando McClain - LB - Raiders
2011 - Mark Ingram - RB - Saints
2011 - James Carpenter - OT - Seahawks
2011 - Julio Jones - WR - Falcons
2011 - Marcel Dareus - DL - Bills
2012 - Donta Hightower - LB - Patriots
2012 - Dre Kirkpatrick - DB - Bengals
2012 - Trent Richardson - RB - Browns
2013 - DJ Fluker - OT - Chargers
2013 - Chance Warmack - OG - Titans
2013 - Dee Milliner - DB - Jets
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:21 pm to madmaxvol
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Wish you would have started it in '09
FIFY
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:22 pm to LSUFOREVERAMEN
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From this list, who would be the Top 5 SEC first round busts since 1992?
I know people will throw out Trent Richardson and Mark Ingram's name for this list in part because Ingram's first 3 and Richardson's first 2 years have been subpar (and maybe rightfully so), but it may be a little early for those 2 and many others on the list. There are quite a few on these lists that should probably make the top 5 bust list at this point before you put any of these guys from the last 2 or 3 drafts.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:23 pm to hg
they actually think Ingram is going to go somewhere and be the "feature back".
lol
lol
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:24 pm to madmaxvol
i think i know why he went with 1992, 12years, instead of 94, 10 years:
UF 23
LSU 18
UA 21-3=18
UGA 18-1=17
UT 17-2=15
AU 12
ATM 12-3=9
OM 8
MIZZ 7
SC 7
ARK 7
MS 4
UK 2
VU 2
UF 23
LSU 18
UA 21-3=18
UGA 18-1=17
UT 17-2=15
AU 12
ATM 12-3=9
OM 8
MIZZ 7
SC 7
ARK 7
MS 4
UK 2
VU 2
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:29 pm to All4Qtrs
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i think i know why he went with 1992, 12years, instead of 94, 10 years:
1. You can't count.
2. 1992 is widely considered the beginning of the new SEC era with the SEC championship game.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:38 pm to All4Qtrs
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i think i know why he went with 1992, 12years, instead of 94, 10 years:
Well, first of all - this is the 2nd time you've posted in this thread "12 years instead of 10"...
2014-1992 = 22 years
Secondly, 1992 was the year the SEC expanded to 12 teams and started playing a conference championship and that year is generally used as a cornerstone for stats.
20 years would have been completely arbitrary. 10 years would have worked, but that's not a big enough window to start a thread for. Same with 5 years... Most people remember their own team's 1st round draft picks over the last 5 or 10 years.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:38 pm to cas4t
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Ingram will never be a feature back.
Maybe not...but with the Saints, he'll never even get that chance...
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And Bush is a much better back than Ingram...
Again, maybe you're right...but Bush never got a chance to be the feature back at N.O. either...and when given that chance by the Dolphins, he promptly became a 1,000 yard rusher his first season with them...
I also remember many Saints fans bitchin' 'bout Bush when he was there...and also cheering when he left...so y'all weren't too happy with a "much better back" either...
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:40 pm to hg
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Bama fans still making excuses for Ingram
With Richardson it was, oh he's in Cleveland then he gets traded and he just needs to learn the playbook!
No need to make an excuse for Ingram...he's never had a season where he's had more than 156 attempts and he's on a team that hasn't had a true feature back since Payton's been there...not knocking the Saints' system as it's been highly productive but it's not a system that's gonna feature a traditional RB...
You'll notice I didn't mention Richardson...while I think it might be a little early to call him a bust, he's had his chances at being the feature back and he hasn't produced. All I'm saying is Ingram is playing in a system where he has yet to get, nor is he likely to get, that chance...
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:43 pm to Tuscaloosa
Edited OP to add the Tennessee guys and Mark Barron.
Let me know if I've missed anyone else.
Let me know if I've missed anyone else.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:38 pm to Tuscaloosa
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2003 - Johnathan Sullivan - DT - Saints
frick you Jim Haslett.
they even traded up to get this guy.
at least they brought in John Stinchcomb in the 2nd round though. He actually amounted to something with the team.
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2011 - Mark Ingram - RB - Saints
not a feature back. Horrible pick for the Saints so far.
I'm not even really bashing Ingram. I think the Saints just overreacted because they had a rash of injuries at RB in 2010.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:45 pm to parkjas2001
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Trent is not a bust.
He's off to a nice start.
not too often a team trades away a player who was a Top 3 pick in the draft so soon.
the guy only played in 17 games for the Browns before they felt like they could better the future of the franchise.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 9:46 pm
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