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re: Is America better off since the Tea Party formed?

Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 am to
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I thought we already did that?


They done had 2 mo chilrens since the last un. Time to pay up again.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 am to
Do you purchase it yourself, or is it through you employer, or are you still on your parents'?
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:33 am to
I doubt my manager will drop it. She knows I need it due to previous medical problems I've had. She actually fudged some numbers when I first started here so I wouldn't have to go 3 months without it. I <3 her, sometimes
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:34 am to
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How many are responsible for their conditions.. Diabetes..etc.. because of their eating habits, lack of physical activity and the likes?


If I had a business, and I knew that I had to provide insurance, I wouldn't hire these people. I would also, as a business owner, not hire people who smoke and drink excessively.

In other words, I get what you're saying. There's no easy way about. And while the government can't regulate what you do on your free time, your boss can.

There was a 60 minutes on this a while back IIRC. Smokers were PISSED that they were getting fired because the owner found out they smoked. He had it on the application. Do you smoke? Check yes or no. He made it very clear you were not allowed to smoke and work for his company, and if you were caught, you would be given a warning. If caught again, you were terminated.

You could also have exclusions put in policies that exclude things that the person brought on their self. ex: if you get type 2 diabetes from obesity, you have no coverage.

Life insurance works this way. You can't just kill yourself so that your family receives benefits.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 11:35 am
Posted by The Calvin
Member since Jun 2013
5240 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:34 am to
Still on parents..I thought this was the case until you were 25(?) or so
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:34 am to
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They done had 2 mo chilrens since the last un. Time to pay up again.

NO.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:35 am to
I'm going up on prices starting in Jan to offset my increase. hate to, as I hadn't planned on doing so until 2015, on my tenth yr anniversary, since I haven't since been in business.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:36 am to
You can stay on your parents' plan until you're 26.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:37 am to
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If I had a business, and I knew that I had to provide insurance, I wouldn't hire these people


And Gov't shouldn't "hire" them either, through entitlement programs. They should be forced to be more responsible. Not get a check for being irresponsible.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:37 am to
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Can someone explain to me what Obamacare will mean for me? I'm almost 24..Will my deductible go up?



If you're on the parents insurance, you'll be fine. Your parents may see an increase, but idk their ages and whatnot.

But Obamacare will definitely effect young, healthy males the most. The goal is to provide more affordable insurance to women and the elderly. So you can imagine what that means. Premiums go up for young males.

eta you asked about deductibles rising. You choose your deductible. Insurance companies can't just raise your deductible.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 11:38 am
Posted by AUnite
The Tragic City
Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:38 am to
And for the love of all that's holy, can we PLEASE start drug testing?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:39 am to
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I'm going up on prices starting in Jan to offset my increase. hate to, as I hadn't planned on doing so until 2015, on my tenth yr anniversary, since I haven't since been in business.


You should just get a private plan through a company, make your renewal date 12/1, and offset ACA for a full year until 11/30 of next year.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35739 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:40 am to
That's a great way to waste money but make us feel better
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:40 am to
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And Gov't shouldn't "hire" them either, through entitlement programs. They should be forced to be more responsible. Not get a check for being irresponsible.


I agree. Let's be clear, I 100% think ACA will fail and do not agree with it.

I think, morally, they're on the right path, but they have taken it drastically too far.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44470 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:41 am to
Florida tried drug testing. It didn't work. I think they got like fifty positives out of thousands of tests.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:42 am to
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You should just get a private plan through a company, make your renewal date 12/1, and offset ACA for a full year until 11/30 of next year


May call and look into this.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90739 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:45 am to
I'd like to see food stamps eliminated. Instead, have markets that those individuals on the program have to go to, to get their food. They're allotted a certain amount of fruit, vegetables, meat and necessities from this market and cannot get anything anywhere else. It won't carry chips, sodas and bull crap like that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:45 am to
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That's a great way to waste money but make us feel better



Florida tried it and failed. But I think in the long run this would get a lot of people off of welfare who don't deserve it.

Also, interested to hear your thoughts on medicare when you get some time.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:47 am to
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Florida tried drug testing. It didn't work. I think they got like fifty positives out of thousands of tests.



People know how to pass drug tests. They're pretty ineffective. It's a sticky subject.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71000 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:48 am to
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May call and look into this.


You'd have to do it by the end of October. Otherwise you're stuck.
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