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re: Is America better off since the Tea Party formed?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:13 am to cas4t
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:13 am to cas4t
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doing what is in the best interest of the people. Healthcare is more important than making sure the CEO of my company can have a yacht and a 30,000 sq ft home
Then by that logic, they should ration sugar intake in individuals, force healthy eating habits in the home, require exercise regimens and make people check in to do so or face penalties.
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The regulations put in place with ACA are completely justified
I'm a single male, with no children. What is justified about raising my premiums and forcing me to carry maternity and pediatric services? Or someone who is unable to have children to have those policies?
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Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:14 am to randystewart
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The only way to deal with Obamacare (if that is your goal) is to take the Senate and keep the House.
Obamacare was voted in the House too. We made our bed.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:15 am to cas4t
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why the hell does someone who served in congress get a lifetime salary?
Same reason they get exempted from Obamacare. Let them eat cake.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:17 am to Alahunter
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1. Neither is welfare.
2. Why do they have 3 kids if they are in such poor economic situations. They are irresponsible.
3. Why are we rewarding irresponsible behavior and making it a lifetime reward?
1. Didn't say it was.
2. None of my business.
3. You think welfare is a reward? LOL
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:19 am to The Spleen
Paying someone to sit at home, and keep making babies to get more money.. yeah.. they're using it as a reward.
And if they are living off Gov't entitlements and continuing to live fiscally irresponsible, creating more drain on entitlements, it damn well is everyone's business.
And if they are living off Gov't entitlements and continuing to live fiscally irresponsible, creating more drain on entitlements, it damn well is everyone's business.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:19 am to Alahunter
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forcing me to carry maternity and pediatric services?
Yeah....my mom said she's going to be forced to get this in her insurance plan at some point. She can't have children, and her only child (me) has health insurance. Makes zero fricking sense.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:21 am to AUnite
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my mom said she's going to be forced to get this in her insurance plan at some point
Everyone will have to. Unless of course, you're Congress, their aides, or any number of Obama supporters that got exempted from it, like Unions.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:22 am to Alahunter
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Then by that logic, they should ration sugar intake in individuals, force healthy eating habits in the home, require exercise regimens and make people check in to do so or face penalties.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that the government should not have to keep in mind the profitability of a company. It's that company's job to find a way to make money. What the government does have an obligation to do is to fix healthcare in this country, because we have an epidemic of people who are uninsured and can not get the care they need.
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I'm a single male, with no children. What is justified about raising my premiums and forcing me to carry maternity and pediatric services? Or someone who is unable to have children to have those policies?
I should have clarified. I was referring to the regulations put in place that help those become more insurable. Ex: reducing the age ratio from 6:1 to 3:1. Meaning, an older individual right now can be charged 6 X the amount as a young one. I get it that older people have more risk, but good lord 6X is a lot of money when you're talking about someone who pays $800 a month at age 30 and someone at age 55 can technically be charged up to $4,800.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:23 am to Alahunter
My insurance already has it, so I'm not worried about me. I just don't understand why a woman who is 56, and had a total hysterectomy 26 years ago should be forced to have it.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:23 am to Alahunter
Congress is not exempt from Obamacare. They have to purchase their insurance through the exchanges. They are getting a subsidy to pay for it though, which they should not. They should have just been allowed to continue having their employer provided insurance like most Americans.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:25 am to The Spleen
Can someone explain to me what Obamacare will mean for me? I'm almost 24..Will my deductible go up?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:26 am to cas4t
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epidemic of people who are uninsured and can not get the care they need.
How many are responsible for their conditions.. Diabetes..etc.. because of their eating habits, lack of physical activity and the likes? Why should companies and people that strive to better themselves and their situations be forced to bear the brunt of the bad decisions of others. Their jobs are to provide safe work environments and provide pay for their services. Anything beyond that, such as benefits, should be between the employer and employee.
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Ex: reducing the age ratio from 6:1 to 3:1. Meaning, an older individual right now can be charged 6 X the amount as a young one. I get it that older people have more risk, but good lord 6X is a lot of money when you're talking about someone who pays $800 a month at age 30 and someone at age 55 can technically be charged up to $4,800.
I understand what you're saying. But I'm still getting screwed by having the Gov't force me to buy something I cannot, will not and will be unable to use. That's fricked up no matter how you look at it.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:26 am to The Calvin
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Can someone explain to me what Obamacare will mean for me? I'm almost 24..Will my deductible go up?
Where do you currently get health insurance?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:27 am to AUnite
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I just don't understand why a woman who is 56, and had a total hysterectomy 26 years ago should be forced to have it.
I wished I could say I don't understand either. But it's so she can help pay for the children of the tenants you have.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:27 am to AUnite
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Yeah....my mom said she's going to be forced to get this in her insurance plan at some point. She can't have children, and her only child (me) has health insurance. Makes zero fricking sense.
I agree.
Also, anyone with children on the plan will be forced to provide vision insurance. Roughly $300 a year.
What if a company has 15 employees, and 10 of those employees have a kid on the plan. That's a lot of money if the business coveres 50% of the health insurance. I don't agree with a lot of ACA.
Do I think a business should provide healthcare? Absolutely. I think a very basic, high deductible plan, that is put in place specifically for catastrophic events, should be offered to any working American. It doesn't mean the employee has to accept. Let them roll the dice if they want. But it should be offered.
Now all the other mumbo jumbo like maternity, vision insurance for kids, etc...that's too damn much. And that's why ACA will fail.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:28 am to Alahunter
I can tell you one thing, if my company drops my insurance bc the rates go up.....I might need bail money 
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:29 am to The Spleen
blue cross/blue shield
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:30 am to The Calvin
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I'm almost 24..Will my deductible go up?
More than likely.
Mine is going from $750/1500 yearly out of pocket to $2200/6400 yearly out of pocket. Doubling copays and coverage is dropping from 80/20 in many situations to 70/30. All the while, increasing montly premiums roughly 30% over what I pay now.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:30 am to Alahunter
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But it's so she can help pay for the children of the tenants you have.
I thought we already did that?
My fricking tenants are the bane of my existence.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 11:32 am to AUnite
When I eventually hire, I probably won't offer it, but instead will offer a cash incentive each month and let the individual choose what they want to do.
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