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re: Saban the Traditionalist
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:14 pm to tider04
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:14 pm to tider04
Here is the link you originally asked for, but then withdrew your request.
quote:You have given ominous predictions in every post in this thread displaying a foolish level of confidence in something you are obviously not very well informed on.
Even if so, college football isn't the NFL and has always rejected many NFL rules. This will be one of them. More likely than not, the NCAA will avoid any of this mess by just telling refs to stand over the ball for a certain number of seconds after every 1st down so teams can sub. Problem solved.
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Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:14 pm to joeyb147
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Soccer pussies
If it takes a pussy move to stop an entire pussy philosophy...so be it.
This post was edited on 7/22/13 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:18 pm to WDE24
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You have given ominous predictions in every post in this thread displaying a foolish level of confidence in something you are obviously not very well informed on.
I have 100+ years of college football history on my side indicating that there will not be an NCAA rule penalizing for injuries--fake or not. You have a new rule in the NFL that is seldom enforced as your only beacon of hope. I'll let everyone else decide who's opinion is more foolish and misplaced based on the evidence.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:18 pm to RBWilliams8
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Saban is right and deep down everyone knows it. Football was never designed to be played as a continuous sport, it takes away the beautiful chess match between coaches every play as they switch the personnel and packages and try to get one past the opposing team. It's not Saban's fault you can't recruit and develop players like he can, and we should not be subjected to pussy football because of it.
Lol this is such a bs statement. The game is played to be won. Football is progressive and ever changing. I'm sure there were coaches bitching about the emergence of the west coast and spread but these have become a regular part of the game.
Here's the thing, I understand Saban sandbagging this because his defense isn't exactly designed to stop it. As you so poignantly stated, its a chess match. Part of that chess match is recruiting. Maybe he should try recruiting linebackers that aren't 260+ and run 4.8s. This is all moot though, because his recruiting classes are almost always in the top 5 and he's still winning.
What's bothersome about this, is him hiding behind the veil of player safety. This isn't about player safety. This is him worrying about the direction some offenses are going and him having to adapt. Here are his options for slowing down these offenses: 1)stop them and 2) use his timeouts.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:21 pm to tider04
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I have 100+ years of college football history on my side indicating that there will not be an NCAA rule penalizing for injuries--fake or not.
Good thing nothing ever changes, like rules. Thank god, so end of thread, right?
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You have a new rule in the NFL that is seldom enforced as your only beacon of hope.
So a new rule for an action that shouldn't happen and rarely happens was only enforced a few times? Well hot damn you are on to something here.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:21 pm to tider04
quote:You are predicting that teams will fake injuries with regularity to slow down HUNH and then the NCAA will respond by slowing down HUNH offenses. However, the recent trend in sports is for the governing body to crack down on players faking injuries for a competitive advantage.
I have 100+ years of college football history on my side indicating that there will not be an NCAA rule penalizing for injuries--fake or not.
This was never an issue in the past 100 years and your lame resort to that irrelevant information is telling.
quote:I think you will be saddened by the results.
I'll let everyone else decide who's opinion is more foolish and misplaced based on the evidence.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:22 pm to itig19
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Lol this is such a bs statement. The game is played to be won. Football is progressive and ever changing. I'm sure there were coaches bitching about the emergence of the west coast and spread but these have become a regular part of the game.
Here's the thing, I understand Saban sandbagging this because his defense isn't exactly designed to stop it. As you so poignantly stated, its a chess match. Part of that chess match is recruiting. Maybe he should try recruiting linebackers that aren't 260+ and run 4.8s. This is all moot though, because his recruiting classes are almost always in the top 5 and he's still winning.
What's bothersome about this, is him hiding behind the veil of player safety. This isn't about player safety. This is him worrying about the direction some offenses are going and him having to adapt. Here are his options for slowing down these offenses: 1)stop them and 2) use his timeouts.
Why is it bothersome? The fact that he is using a current issue in the game to affect the rules to his advantage is brilliant. This mindset is why he will go down as one of the GOAT.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:27 pm to itig19
Um, Saban's D could easily stop the spread most of the time, unless you face a one man show (*cough* A&M *cough*)
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:28 pm to Irons Puppet
Why aren't there 5000 threads calling Saban a whiner like there is when another SEC coach complains about a proven schedule unbalance?
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:30 pm to Hurricane Mike
Because there aren't 5000 alabama fans creating said threads
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:33 pm to WDE24
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You are predicting that teams will fake injuries with regularity to slow down HUNH and then the NCAA will respond by slowing down HUNH offenses. However, the recent trend in sports is for the governing body to crack down on players faking injuries for a competitive advantage.
This was never an issue in the past 100 years and your lame resort to that irrelevant information is telling
Until what you're predicting comes true, the weight of college football history supports my argument. No way the NCAA legislates a rule that discourages an injured player from seeking medical treatment. The NFL is played by professional entertainers for millions of dollars, thus the governing body will react to situations like this one much differently than the NCAA will with amateur student/atheletes in college.
Additionally, Saban is THE Godfather of college football right now. His words carry alot of weight. Saban and Slive were two of the first public figures in college football several years ago publically advocating for a 4 team playoff. Guess what we have now? A 4 team playoff. Saban was the first and only SEC coach advcocating a 9 game SEC schedule. I'd bet you a steak dinner 5 years from now that will be a reality. Other conferences have already gone to this model. The fact that he, and other coaches--are pushing back because of player safety--in an age where that is THE issue on everyone's mind will have an affect. Maybe not right now, but in the near future. Even if what you say happens, Saban is continuing to win titles in the age of HUNH, and has shown the ability to adapt and change in his career--so he'll come out the winner either way. I know that sucks as an AU fan, but you really should just get used to it for the next decade or so.
This post was edited on 7/22/13 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:38 pm to tider04
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Until what you're predicting comes true, the weight of college football history supports my argument. No way the NCAA legislates a rule that discourages an injured player from seeking medical treatment. The NFL is played by professional entertainers for millions of dollars, thus the governing body will react to situations like this one much differently than the NCAA will with amateur student/atheletes in college. Additionally, Saban is THE Godfather of college football right now. His words carry alot of weight. Saban and Slive were two of the first public figures in college football several years ago publically advocating for a 4 team playoff. Guess what we have now? A 4 team playoff. Saban was the first and only SEC coach advcocating a 9 game SEC schedule. I'd bet you a steak dinner 5 years from now that will be a reality. Other conferences have already gone to this model. The fact that he, and other coaches--are pushing back because of player safety--in an age where that is THE issue on everyone's mind will have an affect. Maybe not right now, but in the near future. Even if what you say happens, Saban is continuing to win titles in the age of HUNH, and has shown the ability to adapt and change in his career--so he'll come out the winner either way. I know that sucks as an AU fan, but you really should just get ussed to it for the next decade or so.
Couldn't have said it any better
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:42 pm to tider04
My god, I really think you believe some of this IRL.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:44 pm to NYCAuburn
Pro Style = True football
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:48 pm to BamaDillon
Forward pass=\= original football brah.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:48 pm to WDE24
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He is a defensive coach and the HUNH limits his ability to control every aspect of the defense on every play. That is why he doesn't like it.
That's pretty much it.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:51 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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That's pretty much it.
I made this reference in another thread a while back, but he is like the guy on old school madden games that would wait to see which play you picked of the three options then call his play, every fricking time.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:56 pm to NYCAuburn
Yeah, it's the 'No Huddle' part really. The top teams are in shape so I don't know if the 'Hurry Up' is that big a deal. Not allowing defensive packages...that's the kicker.
Posted on 7/22/13 at 5:58 pm to NYCAuburn
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I made this reference in another thread a while back, but he is like the guy on old school madden games that would wait to see which play you picked of the three options then call his play, every fricking time.
Not using every angle to help you win titles is foolish. The greats like Bryant and Saban use every loophole and push every rule to help them win. If that rubs our rivals the wrong way, that's just dandy by me!
Posted on 7/22/13 at 6:00 pm to tider04
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