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re: Top QB, WR and RB Combo's for 2013

Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:09 pm to
Yep, he is a RG and a damned good one.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:21 pm to
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It happens, but it's not a frequent thing. Usually the RT lacks the agility, but without a better choice ATM is having to roll the dice and hope JFF's ability to escape the pass rush can overcome a weakness on his blindside.


It is a frequent things when Joeckel was a starter day 1 as a freshman, Matthews was his same class... Jeockel was the best tackle in the country. It seems highly probable that Matthews is a naturally great left tackle, but there was another guy on the team who happened to be the best in the country, no? At that point maybe he plays right tackle? Someone in here was saying Matthews is a great C/RG/RT, it might have been you I'm not sure, but whoever said that is an absolute idiot. He is a tackle.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:25 pm to
CyKo >>>> Matthews
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:26 pm to
How is it demeaning to say he is a great RT and I think he would be a great c or guard. All I said is that he will likely struggle at LT.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:29 pm to
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CyKo >>>> Matthews


If both came out this year, Matthews would have been drafted higher. Does that mean he is better? I'm not sure. Both are very talented. I think Matthews benefited from playing two different styles under two different coaches, and Mike Sherman being one of the best offensive line guys to ever coach at any level. The development at A&M was probably better than it would have been had Matthews gone to Alabama, so I can't speak on raw talent level. And I don't care if you're a gump that thinks Alabama's coaching is 100% greatness 100% of the time. Mike Sherman's system and coaching was simply the best for offensive lineman in the country.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:30 pm to
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How is it demeaning to say he is a great RT and I think he would be a great c or guard. All I said is that he will likely struggle at LT.


To think that a guy who is a natural tackle would be a great guard or center, but would struggle at his natural position? That isn't demeaning, you're right, it is just simply moronic.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 12:38 pm to
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Sammy Watkins kinda sucked in 2012. He had 1 carry for -3 yards against LSU.
Either:
1) Trolling/being sarcastic

or

2) Really stupid LSU fan that must think Clowney sucks because he had a sub-par performance against LSU.

Either way,
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:01 pm to
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All I said is that he will likely struggle at LT.


Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:03 pm to
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If both came out this year, Matthews would have been drafted higher.


Based on what?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29210 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Based on what?


Based on Matthews top 15 overall evaluation?
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
16115 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:17 pm to
CyKo wasnt eligible for the draft this year, so...

I remember Damontre Moore had a top 15 eval at one point too.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:17 pm to
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Natural position


He hasn't played LT ever in CFB, how do we know he is a natural. His abilities translate better to RT, C, or Guard.

Having said that, he is a great player but if ATM Han even a decent LT the would not make Matthews play out of position.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29210 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:29 pm to
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He hasn't played LT ever in CFB, how do we know he is a natural. His abilities translate better to RT, C, or Guard.


Just because you say this, it doesn't make it true. His abilities translate to LT and RT. That is why Matthews didn't play C or RG, even with the athletic freak Cedric Ogbuehi on the line. I know gumps tend to be uneducated, but I hope to God you don't actually believe what you are saying.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29210 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:30 pm to
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Having said that, he is a great player but if ATM Han even a decent LT the would not make Matthews play out of position.


Again. Not playing out of position. His natural position is left tackle or right tackle.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:32 pm to
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His natural position is LT


Saying it doesn't make it true.
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
984 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:47 pm to
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He hasn't played LT ever in CFB, how do we know he is a natural.


That's the position he learned (from his Hall of Fame lineman father) and was recruited to play.

quote:

His abilities translate better to RT, C, or Guard.


Just stop. Now. Please.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 1:53 pm to
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He learned the position from his father


His father was primarily a guard and center (though he played a little tackle).
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:00 pm to
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His father was primarily a guard and center (though he played a little tackle).


And now coaches Offensive Line (this includes tackle btw) in the NFL
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:01 pm to
Titans had the worst OL in the NFL last year.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60384 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 2:10 pm to
No they didn't, the Cardinals did
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