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re: I know I will get blasted by lsu fans but?

Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:47 pm to
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There is no doubt that Bama has an easier road getting to the SEC title game than LSU.


This year, yes. Last year, yes (but no one could forsee Mizzou tanking like they did). But to say that the cross-divisional game is the cause of this year's unbalance is absurd. Just like it is absurd to think that Bama had a hand in this year's schedule. And to say that this is an every year occurance is also absurd. It just so happened to work out this way because they had to trow together a make shift schedule until they new exactly how many teams we would have going forward.
Posted by HandGrenade
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:49 pm to
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I do not understand why lsu fans get so worked up about sec scheduling?


I don't. I like that LSU plays Florida annually.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Anyone who thinks Tennessee will be one of the best two SEC programs going forward probably also thought Lane Kiffin was a great hire.


People said the same thing about Bama 7 years ago. UT has the resources, fan support, and name recognition to get back to the big 6 level. They just need the right coach.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:51 pm to
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Those rivalries could have been preserved if the conference had simply moved Auburn east and Tennessee west since Alabama doesn't recognize Auburn as a rival.


We have been through this. Bama blocked AU from moving East citing concerns it would make AU too strong with the recruiting boost.

Of course this was when AU had just come off 6 straight years of beating bama.

My guess is if the same discussions were had today, AU would be in the East as that was Bama's primary concern and Bama is not as worried about AU as they were then and most of the SEC supported AU moving East except Bama, UT, UGA and 1 other school (which was just enough votes to prevent it).
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:53 pm to
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People said the same thing about Bama 7 years ago. UT has the resources, fan support, and name recognition to get back to the big 6 level. They just need the right coach.


This is true. 7 years ago, most thought bama would never be really dominant again. There is only 1 Saban and only a few guys in the game that could bring a program up like he has. In fact he may be the only one in college that can bring a program such a long ways up right now. So bama was very very fortunate IMO.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:56 pm to
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But if you don't see the legitimacy of the complaint that right now the schedule set up gives Alabama an advantage in winning the West then you are blind or delusional


Did you guys complain about LSU having an easier schedule for the couple of years prior to 12'?
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:57 pm to
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When was the last time you played Georgia or Florida?????????


Dumb arse. Bama just rotated UF/USC off our schedule two seasons ago. 08/09-UF 09-10-USc uga was 07-08. So we have played them more recently than LSU prior to the expansion/ bridge schedules.

LSU schedule is rotating back on as planed.

What a bunch of dipshits
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:58 pm to
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except Bama, UT, UGA and 1 other school (which was just enough votes to prevent it).


UF. They were all opposed to AU moving to the east. Bama/UT was to preserve their rivaly.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:58 pm to
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So that had been going on for years prior to Mal finally complaining about it.

So Alabama and Mal Moore complained about schedules?

Fascinating.
Posted by Politiceaux
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 2:59 pm to
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People said the same thing about Bama 7 years ago.
Alabama's situation and Tennessee's are quite different.
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UT has the resources, fan support, and name recognition to get back to the big 6 level.
You know who else does now that didn't when Tennessee was nationally prominent? LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn and Clemson. All of whom recruit the same territory, all of whom are constantly on TV and all of whom have very significant financial support. The recruits today were 2-4 years old the last time Tennessee was in the conversation for going to the title game and were infants when Phil was hosting the trophy. The idea that the Tennessee brand will make up for what Georgia, LSU, Auburn and South Carolina are now doing in conference to an extent that will bring them to being a top 2 or 3 program in the SEC is laughable.

Tennessee will not have the exposure or name brand supremacy that allowed them to be a great program without having to rely upon their lacking in-state talent.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:01 pm to
I didn't think it was UF for some reason. I was thinking they wanted the AU/UF rivalry back, but you are probably right since AU in the East would mean more recruiting competition from AU.

As bad as we suck right now, I think the vote would be different today. Short term memories and all. 4 votes against it were needed to prevent it and there were 4 against and everyone else was for it.
Posted by cjmaronge
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:02 pm to
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We already handicap ourselves with our coach no need to have a harder a schedule


Nice!
Posted by iluvredboxx
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:03 pm to
agreed
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:04 pm to
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So Alabama and Mal Moore complained about schedules?

Fascinating.


Yeah, after years of it being an issue. LSU's complaining is just after one (or two years, but no one knew it would be as unbalanced as it was last year) of it being an issue. Big difference. If it is still unbalanced for the next 3 years, then you will have the right to complain.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:05 pm to
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I didn't think it was UF for some reason. I was thinking they wanted the AU/UF rivalry back, but you are probably right since AU in the East would mean more recruiting competition from AU.


I read something on it when the vote happened. However, I have searched to this day and have not found that article

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I think the vote would be different today. Short term memories and all. 4 votes against it were needed to prevent it and there were 4 against and everyone else was for it.


They would need 5 now, which I dont think they would get. But probably wont happen until they need another realignment. Which probably wont happen until 16 teams, which will more than likely be 4 divisions.

I have said this countless times 14 teams 7 team divisions, on a 12+1 schedule does not work for the SEC. We need either 13+1 schedule or 16 teams
Posted by iluvredboxx
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:09 pm to
My facts are straight you're a ITAT tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy nut job who thinks the REC is behind every problem Au has ever faced.

Son, you should quit using Bama as a crutch for your failures. Bama was not and has never been scared of Au moving to the east because it would somehow magically help with recruiting. You are full of ITAshiT.

LOL
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:10 pm to
Google this and you will find a dozen articles about it on the first page that discuss how the cards fell and how Mizzou landed in the West. AU to the East looked inevitable until bama got their panties in a wad and UT and a couple of others got on board to oppose as well.

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sec divisions auburn moving east opposed by alabama


Here is the first report where it appeared to be a done deal to move AU East (from the Bham news).

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The Southeastern Conference and the University of Missouri have informally agreed that, barring new developments, the school will join the league and that Auburn University will move to the SEC East Division, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

A majority of presidents has endorsed the informal agreement, the sources said.

Early Tuesday night, the SEC issued a statement: "The Southeastern Conference has not agreed formally or informally to accept any institution other than Texas A&M and there have not been conference discussions regarding changes in divisional alignment."

The league already plans to add Texas A&M as its 13th member, provided potential legal challenges from some remaining Big 12 members disappear. Missouri, also a member of the Big 12, would be the 14th member of the SEC.

A timetable for when Missouri would join the SEC, if the informal agreement becomes official, was not immediately known.

This post was edited on 5/3/13 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:10 pm to
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The idea that the Tennessee brand will make up for what Georgia, LSU, Auburn and South Carolina are now doing in conference to an extent that will bring them to being a top 2 or 3 program in the SEC is laughable.


1st off, the only SEC east schools that will be out recruiting UT will be UF & UGA. USCe has not been, nor will be a recruiting machine. Most of the experts believe that UT will finish in the top 10 in recruiting this year, and are currently sitting at #3. It's not like UT all of a sudden moved to east Tennessee. A good coach can recruit there, they just have to recruit more out of state kids. But they had to do that back in the 80s, 90s, and early 2000s also, and they didn't seemed to have a hard time pulling in top 10 recruiting classes then.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/3/13 at 3:10 pm to
Did you read his next post?
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