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Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:08 am to boddagetta
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:08 am to boddagetta
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How far outside of the family are you allowed to marry? 2nd cousins? 3rd? Can't pollute all them good breeding genes, right?
eta: Ok so... I really just wanted to use that gif. :dwi:
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 1:09 am
Posted on 4/16/13 at 7:50 am to Bama Bird
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Oppose it, even though some probably deserve it. If you oppose abortion, I feel you have to oppose the DP
Sure, because killing a child is the exact same thing as executing a murderer.
Fully and completely support it.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 7:51 am to TT9
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Support. Only with DNA evidence though.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:47 am to sorantable
Life is defined quite nicely in the Declaration of Independance as an Unalienable right. Or a right that cannot be taken by anyone, including the state.
In a country where new laws are formed almost daily in both state and federal government, removing the unalienable rights of people convicted of crimes is granting the government powers which overstep the limits placed upon it.
Death should never be the realm of government.
In a country where new laws are formed almost daily in both state and federal government, removing the unalienable rights of people convicted of crimes is granting the government powers which overstep the limits placed upon it.
Death should never be the realm of government.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:51 am to SidewalkDawg
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Death should never be the realm of government.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 9:29 am to SidewalkDawg
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Life is defined quite nicely in the Declaration of Independance as an Unalienable right. Or a right that cannot be taken by anyone, including the state.
In a country where new laws are formed almost daily in both state and federal government, removing the unalienable rights of people convicted of crimes is granting the government powers which overstep the limits placed upon it.
Death should never be the realm of government.
If I'm on a jury for a murder trial, I don't know if I'm comfortable recommending death penalty.
And I certainly don't trust our criminal justice system to distribute capital punishment fairly. Lady Justice ain't blind.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:10 am to sorantable
Depends on the nature of the crime.
The death penalty has proven itself a bad deterrent for murder by itself because most murders are committed in the heat of the moment and are devoid of all reason. The process of keeping someone in prison for years while they await death is also a pretty expensive thing as well.
I'm not necessarily morally opposed to it; though, in particularly heinous crimes. Murderers who I cannot express any empathy towards in any way, like serial killers, would be a good example.
The death penalty has proven itself a bad deterrent for murder by itself because most murders are committed in the heat of the moment and are devoid of all reason. The process of keeping someone in prison for years while they await death is also a pretty expensive thing as well.
I'm not necessarily morally opposed to it; though, in particularly heinous crimes. Murderers who I cannot express any empathy towards in any way, like serial killers, would be a good example.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:14 am to Ross
An eye for an eye - The Lord refers here to the law of retaliation mentioned in Exodus 21:24, which obliged the offender to suffer the same injury he had committed. The Greeks and Romans had the same law. So strictly was it attended to at Athens, that if a man put out the eye of another who had but one, the offender was condemned to lose both his eyes, as the loss of one would not be an equivalent misfortune. It seems that the Jews had made this law (the execution of which belonged to the civil magistrate) a ground for authorizing private resentments, and all the excesses committed by a vindictive spirit. Revenge was often carried to the utmost extremity, and more evil returned than what had been received. This is often the case among those who are called Christians.
That being said, hell yea I support the death penalty!
That being said, hell yea I support the death penalty!
Posted on 4/16/13 at 10:52 am to sorantable
Not reading through the whole thread.
Oppose. Our human juries are very imperfect and innocent people are found guilty all of the time. We shouldn't be putting people to death when there is a good likelihood they are innocent.
Oppose. Our human juries are very imperfect and innocent people are found guilty all of the time. We shouldn't be putting people to death when there is a good likelihood they are innocent.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 11:38 am to PirateJunk
in favor of death penalty. hard to put into words, well without sounding like an ignorant redneck, but some people just need killing. i don't have a better way to say that.
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:00 pm to sorantable
Oppose it. The Gov't should not have the power to play God.
I suggest you advocates of the Jesus Juice read these books and story:
John Thompson, falsely accused on Death Row in Angola.
I suggest you advocates of the Jesus Juice read these books and story:
John Thompson, falsely accused on Death Row in Angola.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:27 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Life is defined quite nicely in the Declaration of Independance as an Unalienable right. Or a right that cannot be taken by anyone, including the state.
WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.
The meaning changes when you include all of the information, doesn't it?
Posted on 4/16/13 at 8:43 pm to Fishwater
The government can't but every gun wielding cowboy out there can. Okay.
Not a gun owner but I support the DP.
Not a gun owner but I support the DP.
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:59 am to sorantable
Not in favor unless there is clear physical evidence that ties the perpetrator to the victim. If there is DNA that proves a person guilty of murder then justice should be swift and lethal. I don't care to keep them on death row for 20 yrs taking up space that could be used to incarcerate someone else.
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