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re: Sumlin=Paid
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:53 pm to Marty McFrat
Posted on 1/20/13 at 11:53 pm to Marty McFrat
That should be Mike Sherman's raise.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 1:37 am to Lsupimp
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Does Sumlin have any discernable downside to anybody
He has had Case Keenum and Johnny Manziel as his qbs? Needs to prove he can be good without a record breaking quarterback. That's about all I got.
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:19 am to harmonics
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He has had Case Keenum and Johnny Manziel as his qbs? Needs to prove he can be good without a record breaking quarterback. That's about all I got.
What if he can't help but produce record-breaking QBs??
Posted on 1/21/13 at 8:42 am to DWag215
Case Keenum is just a guy. What's he doing now, selling insurance?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 4:34 am to DWag215
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What if he can't help but produce record-breaking QBs??
He didn't produce Keenum or Manziel.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 5:50 am to ChrisTAMU
He needs to give that to Manziel.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 7:38 am to harmonics
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He didn't produce Keenum or Manziel.
Why not?
We know he didn't recruit them, but we know that nothing that tells us he didn't help cultivate and home their skill sets.
Sumlin's always going to have a stud QB.
This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 7:40 am
Posted on 1/22/13 at 8:01 am to Marty McFrat
quote:Let's not forget Auburn. Ask them how that raise worked out with Chiz.
Message Posted by Marty McFrat Ole Miss gave Houston Nutt a raise and extension after his first season too...
Posted on 1/22/13 at 10:40 am to aroussel3Tigers
I agree with the posters from other schools. We need to see how well he can do without a superstar QB, a top 3 offensive line, and a stacked receiving corps before we give him a raise. I wish he was more like Saban and Miles and be able to beat opponents without superior athletes giving him an advantage.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:02 am to cokebottleag
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A&M is for some reason his dream job
That's easy to explain.
First, some coaches don't want to deal with overpaid, pampered pro athletes that can't be disciplined for anything. (Most likely why Saban won't ever return to the pros--"the process" would never work in the NFL)
Second, he's within decent driving distance of two top-10 metro areas (Houston and DFW) in a state well-known for producing top-level college football talent. Being the lone in-state school in what is essentially the NFL Development League helps greatly.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:13 am to DWag215
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Sumlin's always going to have a stud QB.
Except for that time he didn't.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:23 am to aroussel3Tigers
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Let's not forget Auburn. Ask them how that raise worked out with Chiz.
Sumlin and Chiz are pretty similar. Think about this though, Aggies say JFF > Cam, but Cam won a national title while JFF's biggest achievement was defeating John L. Smith to get A&M a Super Bowl title 20 years in the making. AU 2010 was pretty similar to A&M 2012. Solid o-line / upperclassmen leadership, one standout player on D, great running back, etc.... Yet Chiz won it all, and Sumlin didn't.
Thus, Chiz > Sumlin?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:23 am to aroussel3Tigers
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This post was edited on 1/22/13 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:26 am to Arkansasrazorback
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Sumlin and Chiz are pretty similar
No not at all really, keep dreaming though.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:33 am to harmonics
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He has had Case Keenum and Johnny Manziel as his qbs? Needs to prove he can be good without a record breaking quarterback. That's about all I got.
Keenum was record breaking BECAUSE of Sumlin. His arm is nothing special.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:34 am to UKWildcatsFAN
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That should be Mike Sherman's raise.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:36 am to Arkansasrazorback
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Sumlin and Chiz are pretty similar. Think about this though, Aggies say JFF > Cam, but Cam won a national title while JFF's biggest achievement was defeating John L. Smith to get A&M a Super Bowl title 20 years in the making. AU 2010 was pretty similar to A&M 2012. Solid o-line / upperclassmen leadership, one standout player on D, great running back, etc.... Yet Chiz won it all, and Sumlin didn't.
Thus, Chiz > Sumlin?
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:36 am to Roger Klarvin
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His arm is nothing special.
As we now see considering he made the practice squad out of pity.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:38 am to CP3LSU25
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quote: That should be Mike Sherman's raise.
How Sherman managed to lose 6 games with virtually the same roster we had this year tells you all you need to know.
Posted on 1/22/13 at 11:41 am to John Maplethorpe
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How Sherman managed to lose 6 games with virtually the same roster we had this year tells you all you need to know.
Yep the season that was lost.
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