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Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:13 am to Ag8556
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Agree on that order:
1) UNC, UVA
2) NCSU, VT
UNC and UVA add great basketball inventory to future SEC Network. UVA has strong baseball program.
SEC schools should form up research consortium to compete with Big 10 CIC. UNC & UVA add 2 more AAU schools to the consortium.
Double win - Sports $$ and Research $$
This would be ideal. Decent/potential football (we have enough current/past football powers already) and strong in all other areas: new tv market, strong academics, contiguous, good basketball & baseball, known nationally, etc
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:30 am to SwatMitchell
I didn't think there was much hope to land UNC either until reading their scout board. Seemed like a small majority preferred the SEC and were worried that NC St would surpass them if they let them get the SEC invite.
NC St f ans were almost unanamiously in favor of move to SEC.
NC St f ans were almost unanamiously in favor of move to SEC.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:40 am to RocketBallz
Interesting. That's a pretty big piece of the puzzle for the SEC, despite what the tone-deaf administrators at Maryland did this week.
Mizzou and A&M's enthusiasm for the league were a big part of the SEC's decision. (Which, even as a Jayhawk, I agree with wholeheartedly, as I'm first and foremost a LSU/SEC fan!)
Maybe there is hope for the NC & VA schools. But I still think a FSU/GT/Clemson defection to the Big XII has to come first.
Mizzou and A&M's enthusiasm for the league were a big part of the SEC's decision. (Which, even as a Jayhawk, I agree with wholeheartedly, as I'm first and foremost a LSU/SEC fan!)
Maybe there is hope for the NC & VA schools. But I still think a FSU/GT/Clemson defection to the Big XII has to come first.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:44 am to RockChalkTiger
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But I still think a FSU/GT/Clemson defection to the Big XII has to come first.
Agreed...but, with the BIG 10 going to 14 to match the SEC (already at 14), what is PAC 12 commissioner Larry Scott's next move? Plus, scheduling at 16 is just better and easier than 14.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:44 am to SwatMitchell
a little off-topic, but: wow. Ignore TV and radio a couple days, and you get 2 teams into the B1G (or whatever it is). In the middle of football season, no less.
I'm with another poster here- screw expansion. At some point it gets too big, and starts to collapse. We're beginning to see the scheduling issues already.
If you HAVE to expand to 16, then... screw the geography concerns. And stop looking at heading to the Northeast. Instead, improve the brand.
2 more teams? Take USC and Oklahoma, and watch the world burn. Make 4 divisions, not 2, and have a 2 round SEC championship.
Fla-UGA-SC-Ky
Alabama-Auburn-Tenn- Vandy
LSU-Miss St-A&M-Ole Miss
Okla-USC-Missouri-Arkansas
Winner then decides (only a little bit of a joke) if they even need to play anyone else for the national title
I'm with another poster here- screw expansion. At some point it gets too big, and starts to collapse. We're beginning to see the scheduling issues already.
If you HAVE to expand to 16, then... screw the geography concerns. And stop looking at heading to the Northeast. Instead, improve the brand.
2 more teams? Take USC and Oklahoma, and watch the world burn. Make 4 divisions, not 2, and have a 2 round SEC championship.
Fla-UGA-SC-Ky
Alabama-Auburn-Tenn- Vandy
LSU-Miss St-A&M-Ole Miss
Okla-USC-Missouri-Arkansas
Winner then decides (only a little bit of a joke) if they even need to play anyone else for the national title
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:47 am to SwatMitchell
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PAC 12 commissioner Larry Scott's next move?
New Mexico, UNLV, Nevada and Hawaii. My preference anyway, but it will never happen. They will wait forever for UT and OU.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:51 am to Scoob
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Fla-UGA-SC-Ky
Alabama-Auburn-Tenn- Vandy
LSU-Miss St-A&M-Ole Miss
Okla-USC-Missouri-Arkansas
Would be fun, and btw absolutely destroy UTexas, and no need to play anyone else. Obviously, travel/time zones/politics/ties would prevent USC.
Oklahoma should be in play, I don't get the OSU angle either - long term, the SEC would be OU's best option.
This post was edited on 11/21/12 at 10:52 am
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:53 am to RockChalkTiger
Option 1 just made Ole Miss fans across the nation cum all over their keyboards.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:56 am to RockChalkTiger
quote:BYU, if they're available (again I haven't watched the tube this week. For all I know, they're now in the ACC). BYU has a lot of national recognition, fills in the Mountain time zone better than Utah (and honestly, Colorado). Inherent rivalry potential with Colorado, built-in with Utah.
PAC 12 commissioner Larry Scott's next move?
New Mexico, UNLV, Nevada and Hawaii. My preference anyway, but it will never happen.
Does Tulane figure to move anywhere? Last year or so, I heard potential Big 12 rumblings. NOLA isn't what it once was market-wise, but the Superdome is a media prize. Getting Texas and Oklahoma into the Dome each season would be a TV showcase, and gets the Big 12 into SEC territory (like A&M got the SEC more into Big 12 territory).
Posted on 11/21/12 at 10:58 am to RockChalkTiger
Duke/UNC.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:00 am to Scoob
If the PAC-12 was smart, they would drop their objections to BYU, OSU, OU and add them along with 1 of the current Big12 Texas programs. They could then form an eastern POD with those teams.
Their big problem is that the Big 12 teams have supposedly sold their TV media right to the conference for 13 years. Don't know if this is really true or not.
If PAC can't get into Oklahoma and Texas, they are landlocked.
Their big problem is that the Big 12 teams have supposedly sold their TV media right to the conference for 13 years. Don't know if this is really true or not.
If PAC can't get into Oklahoma and Texas, they are landlocked.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:02 am to Ag8556
If the league dissolves prior to anyone bolting, those penalties would be void, right?
They could vote to crater the whole league and then go elsewhere.
They could vote to crater the whole league and then go elsewhere.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:03 am to Scoob
BYU won't happen (Berkeley won't let a religious school in).
Tulane is building a new, on-campus stadium.
Tulane is building a new, on-campus stadium.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:05 am to RockChalkTiger
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The 1860, putting the Confederacy back together option
so stupid that some people want to fantasize about something that was over 150 years ago
add no one
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:05 am to Jobu93
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They could vote to crater the whole league and then go elsewhere.
Or hire a platoon of lawyers and try to whittle it down like Maryland is going to do. Interesting that Maryland and FSU were the only two schools to vote against the ACC's $50 million exit fee...
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:07 am to stapuffmarshy
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so stupid that some people want to fantasize about something that was over 150 years ago
Agree, but the sad reality is that those people still exist (CSA Tiger?). Some of them will probably be here to post shortly...
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:13 am to SwatMitchell
quote:Yeah, that's a lot of travel for USC. Football could swallow it without problem, but the other sports would be a disaster. Oklahoma makes sense, and quite possibly, the Sooners have some contacts in the A&M and Mizzou camps.
Fla-UGA-SC-Ky
Alabama-Auburn-Tenn- Vandy
LSU-Miss St-A&M-Ole Miss
Okla-USC-Missouri-Arkansas
Would be fun, and btw absolutely destroy UTexas, and no need to play anyone else. Obviously, travel/time zones/politics/ties would prevent USC.
Oklahoma should be in play, I don't get the OSU angle either - long term, the SEC would be OU's best option.
In fact, Oklahoma is one of the only prize schools around. Maybe there's a back-room deal in place to save the decent guys from the Big 12; in order to land Big Guy Oklahoma, you also need to take Medium Guy A&M and Little Guys Mizzou and ... are we SURE it's OSU? If so, do it over a couple years, as Oklahoma makes sure the SEC will honor it's word (unlike the Big 12), and take Mizzou. And you can't sell Mizzou by itself, so A&M came with them this season.
If so, commitment honored, and we might now see the bigger prize coming.
And in return, the Big 12 can fill it's slots from the old SWC roster: you still have Rice, SMU and Houston available, just begging to come home. And/or Tulane, which I noted above, can deliver games in the Superdome for Texas and the rest.
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:15 am to Scoob
1860 the south will rise again
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:17 am to Scoob
interesting idea, but that seems too convoluted to be realistic.
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