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Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:00 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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The problem for me arises when people treat politics like sports. Always a dem, always a republican is loosely analogous to always a wolverine, always a buckeye. No matter what, nothing that comes from the other side can ever be wrong, and even if something does slip through the cracks, it's quickly discounted by holding it up against the prism of past behavior.
Washington knew what was up when he said party politics were a bad idea.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:01 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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Washington knew what was up when he said party politics were a bad idea.
He really did, in my humble opinion
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:02 pm to Duke
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A) Didn't realize all black people are poor.
Perception is the point in that last post. LINK might be some truth.
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B) The President isn't king, he has less power than you think he does. Congress, Local/State govs, and a plethora of other issues are a cause of the crippling poverty for the inner city poor. Yes the perception may be the (R) fricked them, but it isn't nearly that simple.
I know it isn't that simple but to many perception is reality. When a Gov. who becomes pres. Is lambasted for ditching in the biggest racial fiasco that state had seen for a while, or a President's wife rides along with the LAPD on a house raid, which a tank was used, on the wrong house in a black neighborhood, it raises the suspicions and validates preconceived notions already being held, whether they are right or wrong.
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This is true, but what happens when that collective memory isn't the truth of the situation?
That being said, I fully understand why many black folks wouldn't vote for Romney. He seems to be the candidate for the affluent.
Romney is to damn shady for me, as is Obama, but I would rather live with a little socialism than a lot of Corporate Overlords.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:05 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Look. My "line of thought" is simply this........that the Southern STATES should have been allowed to decide for themselves how to handle the debacle of slavery..........just as the northern states were allowed to decide for themselves how to handle the issue of slavery. (Even though there were still slaves in many northern states during the war.) I say with absolute certainty that there would be no slavery in the Southern states today even without a war. It's logical common sense if you have half a brain.
I'm not so sure I agree...Because of the inherent economical impact of abolishing slavery, no US state (in the South) was going to voluntarily do it. Barry Goldwater - later in life - said that he had made a mistake thinking segregation should have been left up to the states. Sometimes this is exactly what the federal government is for...I realize we are in the same situation with gay rights right now...I don't know what's best...
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:06 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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You're such an embarassing fool with this "slavery to this day" bullshite.......
The entire south's wealth was founded on the slave trade. Not commerce, Industry, Shipping or any other monetary endevours. Slavery and power that is associated with it would not have been given up by the south, it was "Way of Life". You have been on and on about how the South had the right to secede, and it did not. Just like the States do not have the right to create their own immigration laws. The south was wrong. I am thinking outside of the Typical southern white male agenda and you call me brainwashed. Move out of the 1860's into the new world.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:08 pm to 10888bge
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might be some truth.
Really just a result of the greater % of poverty and the lack of super-wealthy blacks relative to the % of whites. Recessions like this put quite the crunch on the lower classes. There are a lot of white folks struggling with the same problem.
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it raises the suspicions and validates preconceived notions already being held, whether they are right or wrong.
Those preconceived notions are dangerous though. Why should the Dems make any real effort to alleviate some of the real problems if they have their vote anyway?
Sure the GOP doesn't appear to give a shite, but the Dems only really pay lip service to them to keep them voting their way. Demanding better or not giving them the votes would go a much longer way.
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Romney is to damn shady for me, as is Obama, but I would rather live with a little socialism than a lot of Corporate Overlords.
They're pols, of course they be shady. Obama is hardly a socialist though, as much as the right would like to paint him that way. Both are in big business' pockets.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:10 pm to Grateful Reb
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Will there ever be a successful push to drop Ole Miss/Rebels?
If so don't stop there. Just demolish the whole campus, move it elsewhere, and name it Mississippi A&M or something.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:12 pm to Duke
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Both are in big business' pockets.
They all are. Until we regulate campaign contributions more strictly, all politicians will have strings attached to some big corporation.
This is why I'm very apathetic towards politics. There is some difference between candidates, but in the grand scheme of things the choices aren't that different.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:12 pm to crimsonsaint
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If so don't stop there. Just demolish the whole campus, move it elsewhere, and name it Mississippi A&M or something.
Only room for one A&M in this conference
Plus, isn't State already an Ag school?
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:13 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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They all are. Until we regulate campaign contributions more strictly, all politicians will have strings attached to some big corporation.
This.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:13 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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This is why I'm very apathetic towards politics. There is some difference between candidates, but in the grand scheme of things the choices aren't that different.
+1
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:13 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Only room for one A&M in this conference
LSU is an A&M fwiw
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:14 pm to Duke
I know this. I was just stating the situation as it related to T-Birds post.
I agree with you that the preconceived notions are dangerous. They lead to many other nasty bits of bigotry and bias. There are a lot of folks period hurting right now.
I agree that Obama isn't a socialist I was using that term to illustrate.
All pols do is give lip service.
I agree with you that the preconceived notions are dangerous. They lead to many other nasty bits of bigotry and bias. There are a lot of folks period hurting right now.
I agree that Obama isn't a socialist I was using that term to illustrate.
All pols do is give lip service.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:15 pm to Duke
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LSU is an A&M fwiw
I know, but at least they're sneaky about it
auburn is too, is it not?
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:16 pm to GeauxWarTigers
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This is why I'm very apathetic towards politics. There is some difference between candidates, but in the grand scheme of things the choices aren't that different.
Pretty much.
I mean with the POTUS, they can't do anything significant without congress.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:17 pm to 10888bge
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I know this. I was just stating the situation as it related to T-Birds post.
I hear ya, TenTripleAte
Simply put, the state of politics in this nation is in shambles, from the sides of the politicians as well as the constituency.
I agree with GWT sharing Washington's sentiments that this was not the democracy in a republic he envisioned.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:19 pm to crimsonsaint
All right let me get this back on track for a second. I honestly think the changing of the mascot was a good idea. Why would a group of people want to be associated with a grim moment in the civil rights movement where they were proved to be wrong. I think that it was ignorant of so many to keep waving the C. Jack around just out of spite and a delusional idea of what their heritage is. I do however think that Ole Miss should keep the flag as part of its history. There are to many revisionists out there that want to rewrite history to suite their needs. Whatever the history is, it needs to be relished, good bad and ugly.
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:19 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Yep, Auburn is an Ag school too
Posted on 10/30/12 at 11:26 pm to 10888bge
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the Union said frick you, outlasted the south, and burned a shite ton of it to the ground. Don't proclaim war if you aren't ready to do what it takes to win it.
Aside from the fact the Confederacy didn't simply, "declare war" against the Union, the obvious double standard here is mind boggling. If the South had gone into Northern cities and acted the way the North did here, it would be referenced incessantly as exemplifying the immorality and brutality of the South. But because the North did it, it is somehow justified. Perfect example of winners writing and interpreting the history.
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