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re: Aggies, your FR QB looked very good at times. He will be a great

Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:18 pm to
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He can be a good one, but still has a lot to learn.


This 100%
Posted by Sig
dallas
Member since Oct 2010
2039 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:18 pm to
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JM is pretty shifty indeed. I'm not sure about his arm strength.


He has plenty of arm.. dude tossed 7k yards and 70+ TD's in high school..

He doesn't have the same deep ball as Showers(other QB), but it is more than enough to produce.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4318 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:18 pm to
Florida's defense had the best athletes to step on Kyle since some of the old OU D's ... Manziel will learn, and UF gave our coaches the SEC blueprint to scheme against. No INTs or fumbles by Manziel was good, and they'll let him open things up against lesser D's.
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2561 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:19 pm to
Extremely happy with the defense's effort. They played well. Penalties and mental lapses killed us. All we needed was a couple of sustained drives in the second half and we walk away with the win.

Makes you wonder if the outcome would have been different if we would have played LA Tech before Florida. We didn't have an opportunity to "clean things up" with a lesser opponent, new coaches, new systems and new QB. However, I am very happy with our effort. I'm really liking this team. So many young talented players. The sky is the limit
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:24 pm to
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No INTs or fumbles by Manziel was good


I was shocked he never turned the ball over. That was something I was counting on with him being a RS FR. Pleased with his taking care of the ball.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29278 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:25 pm to
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I was shocked he never turned the ball over. That was something I was counting on with him being a RS FR. Pleased with his taking care of the ball.


Well if he doesn't throw the ball further than 5 yards, he is really giving himself a beneficial margin for error.
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2561 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:26 pm to
Bubble screens for the win!!...
Posted by xenythx
Member since Dec 2007
32623 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:28 pm to
Manziel is a playmaker for sure. But all of his good plays came from called runs or busted pass plays. After the game, I still have no idea if he can throw or not.
Posted by LegacyAggie
Member since Sep 2011
691 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:29 pm to
Enormous potential but its just potential. Needs good coaching. Seems like KK, our OC, was stumped or just didnt trust our guys yet.
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:29 pm to
He needs to learn to tuck the ball when he runs though. He was running with it just out in hand far from his body just asking for trouble.
Posted by 3legr
Member since Jan 2012
232 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:34 pm to
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Freshman QB and a completely new offense makes any adjustments practically impossible. I think you saw what you had in the first half. UF adjusted but Sumlin entered this game with one hand tied behind his back. It is what it is, we have had similar issues the last two years, while playing so many young players, so I can feel your pain.

This post was edited on 9/9/12 at 9:36 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29278 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:36 pm to
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Manziel is a playmaker for sure. But all of his good plays came from called runs or busted pass plays. After the game, I still have no idea if he can throw or not.


Johnny's playmaking ability was just as jaw dropping in high school, and even more so because he was playing against high school competition. He had a combined 75 TDs or something ridiculous as a senior... yet he was still a 3 star because everyone walked away thinking exactly what you did. You watch kids in high school and you can tell if they can throw a good ball or not. Sometimes you just need natural mechanics, as people with natural mechanics throw a good ball. I saw Stafford play in high school. He had a cannon then, he had a cannon in college, he has a cannon in the pros. Johnny doesn't.

Kohl Stewart does. He throws 95 MPH and will get drafted very high by MLB, but I hope for the love of God he somehow makes it to campus.

If he doesn't... the Johnny Football experiment will continue, and Johnny has a lot of room to improve.
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:41 pm to
If Stewart goes pro in baseball (if I was him, I sure in the hell would), we still have Kenny Hill coming in. He should be pretty decent too.
Posted by WPSMomma
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2012
485 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:41 pm to
Yeah he will gig us
Posted by Sig
dallas
Member since Oct 2010
2039 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:43 pm to
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He needs to learn to tuck the ball when he runs though


So true... I hope the coaches call him out on that. Both QB's were doing it though. Our DC said that he watched Driskle dangle the ball out all day and "we've got to go for the ball, and make turnovers."

The gators were doing so on every tackle.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29278 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 9:50 pm to
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Bubble screens for the win!!...


The air raid steals a lot of routes from the West Coast offense, even though they clog up some natural routes with unnecessary receivers. I heard that Sherman didn't want to recruit Thomas Johnson because, while he was a good receiver, he wasn't quick enough to be a slot receiver, he was a more natural X, and Sherman had just recruited some scrub named Mike Evans the season before. I was dumb founded because I had never heard anything good about Mike Evans, and his next best offer after Texas A&M was Colorado State. After watching all those bubble screens the last couple seasons with Fuller engaging small corners and making them look silly and Swope running way past them, I became spoiled. I know we can't have Mike Sherman back, and he never embraced the SEC thing which is stupid, and he tried to do everything himself, but damn he was a smart coach. He knew Xs and Os.
Posted by AggieDisaster
The Lone Star State
Member since Jan 2012
26 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 10:22 pm to
JFF had 73 rushing TDs and 74 passing TDs in HS. (may have those reversed) The really amazing stat is he had 5, Five, That's 5, ints. in 3 years. 2 of those ints. I know came in his senior year playoffs.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 10:25 pm to
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but damn he was a smart coach. He knew Xs and Os.


He was such a smart coach that he called 5 runs to the halfback against Oklahoma State in the 2nd half in 2011.

He was such a smart coach that he never called any routes for Jeff Fuller besides an 8 yard sideline route.

He was such a smart coach that he called a play-action pass on 3rd and inches from the KSU 35 in a tie ballgame with less than 3 minutes left when Cyrus Gray had run for almost 200 yards.

He was such a smart coach that he stopped calling passes to the tight ends over the middle against Missouri in the second half even though they couldn't stop it. He was also such a smart coach that he put Ryan Swope in at RUNNING BACK when we were down in overtime.

Mike Sherman and "smart coach" should NEVER be used in the same sentence again.

How did he do today as offensive coordinator again? What was that? 275 yards on 58 plays? 4 turnovers? ZERO offensive touchdowns?

Do yourself a favor: Look up the phrase "4th and 26" and see whose name comes up.
This post was edited on 9/9/12 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4318 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 10:29 pm to
Slow clap for CGSC on Sherm. Nice man, better for the NFL than college.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30506 posts
Posted on 9/9/12 at 10:32 pm to
Champ gave Manziel a ton of props after the game. Didn't do the same for ATM fans, but he likes Johnny football.
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