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Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:03 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Ingram was not better than TG.
Neither were better than Suh.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:06 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Neither were better than Suh.
Only player that was ever so good he helped his team lose a conference title. If he was half a second slower and not as beastly off the line Colt would have run out of time rather than throwing the ball away early.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:08 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Only player that was ever so good he helped his team lose a conference title. If he was half a second slower and not as beastly off the line Colt would have run out of time rather than throwing the ball away early.
Damn, I never looked at it that way
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:08 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Only player that was ever so good he helped his team lose a conference title. If he was half a second slower and not as beastly off the line Colt would have run out of time rather than throwing the ball away early.
I never thought about this before
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:18 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yeah Ingram was better than TG..and still is..
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:48 pm to Col Reb is my mascot
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Vick - Go back and watch some of his college day videos... he couldn't be stopped
This. He took Va Tech to the national title game ,by himself, as a true freshman.
Has that ever happened before? A true freshman qb, being unstoppable.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:53 pm to TTsTowel
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IMO, Bo Jackson was the 3rd best running back to ever strap up during a college football season, behind Barry Sanders and Herschel Walker (I hope I spelled his name right). Now, anyone claiming Bo Jackson as the best running back ever needs to take off the orange and blue glasses. That just wasn't the case. He could've been considered even more legendary had he not been injured nearly an entire year, but shite happens.
I'd say Bo is fourth. Behind Barry, Herschel, Jim Brown and then Bo.
Also there have been numerous rb with better numbers than BO.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:55 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Ingram was not better than TG.
Toby Gerhart had a future first pick playing QB in front of him, as well as future first round offensive linemen blocking for him, playing in a weakened Pac-10. There is no way he was better than Ingram.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:57 pm to Tigah32
Trent Richardson was definitely snubbed.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:06 pm to imjustafatkid
Ingram had 5 games with less than 100 yrds (RB standard) rushing the year he won it. Has there ever been a Heisman RB Winner with a stat like that ?
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:08 pm to Irons Puppet
Did you not see what he did to us and Texas?
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:08 pm to Tigah32
For me, it's
1. Troy Davis - Iowa State and
2. Manning
DM5 is up there but slightly less than the above.
1. Troy Davis - Iowa State and
2. Manning
DM5 is up there but slightly less than the above.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:14 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
I suppose you thought Toby should have gotten it too. Nevermind the fact that:
Toby 354 offensive touches 1928 yds = 5.44 yards per touch
Ingram 303 offensive touches 1992 yds = 6.57 yards per touch
Ingram had to share the backfield too, as others accounted for 13 TD's, while Toby got to be the one to punch it in and other rb's in their backfield only acounted for 8 TD's.
Ingram, less touches, more yards, higher yard per touch. More versatile, faced tougher defenses, didn't have a futre #1 pick tossing the ball and probably = Olines, if not better at the time at Stanford.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:19 pm to Irons Puppet
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Irons Puppet
You realize Bo didn't break 80 yards in 3 games he played in his Heisman yr, and didn't even score a TD in 3 of them either, right?
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:21 pm to sugatowng
Glenn Dorsey!!!! 
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:27 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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Only player that was ever so good he helped his team lose a conference title. If he was half a second slower and not as beastly off the line Colt would have run out of time rather than throwing the ball away early.
Also, that Big 12 Champ Game agains Texas was one of the most dominating performances EVER in a single game. Suh was crazy that game.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:38 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Ndamukong Suh was the best defensive player in all of college football over the last decade. Offense and defense are equal, but offense is more flashy so it gets more attention. You can debate who the best offensive player was over the last 20 years, there are probably 35 you could make a decent case for... but really... Ndamukong Suh. Not even debatable.
What's even crazier I that Suh faced double teams almost all of the game. He was unstoppable.
Posted on 7/25/12 at 4:41 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Neither were better than Suh.
I know. If anyone got screwed, it was Suh. That Heisman vote told me that a Def player would never win it again. Suh had the most dominate season , in the last 20-30 years, and was snubbed.
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