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re: Who is the biggest heisman snub in the past 20 years?

Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by AUTiger83
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:28 pm to
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Darren McFadden in 06.


This
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:28 pm to
Vince Young immediately comes to mind
Posted by thatdude1985
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:29 pm to
I don't even?!??! You're really bad at this.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:30 pm to
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Peyton Manning

/thread



This should have ended the thread on the first page. I have absolutely no idea how Peyton Manning didn't manage to make it into the OP's discussion, and I have absolutely no idea how this thread has gone 8 pages.

Peyton Manning is the correct answer.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:30 pm to
I was not alive to see Bo Jackson play so I can't comment. I think there is no doubt who the superior athlete is between the two of them. Bo Jackson could probably dominate Ingram in baseball and track but, if you look at their stats from their two Heisman seasons, they are pretty similar to one another.
Posted by LBC
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:30 pm to
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Who is rating him so highly? It was a very weak Heisman class where no one really stood out. The national title and production in big games against SEC defenses broke the tie, and rightfully so.

It's not like he is some marginal talent who put up college numbers in a system like Eric Crouch, Jason White, or Troy Smith. He was a first rounder and the first HB taken in the draft.


Ndamukong Suh had 85 tackles, 12 sacks, 28 QB hurries, 24 tackles for loss, 10 pass breakups, 3 blocked kicks and an interception that year. Screw Ingram, Gerhart, and whoever the hell else was in the Heisman voting, if any defensive player deserved to get the Heisman, it was him.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:31 pm to
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Peyton Manning is the correct answer.


Charles Woodson was the better athlete that year. The guy could do it all.

Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:32 pm to
Larry Fitzgerald always comes to mind. He set some NCAA receiving records that year but broken arse Jason White got it on some sympathy votes because an Oklahoma player hadn't won a Heisman in forever.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:32 pm to
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Ndamukong Suh had 85 tackles, 12 sacks, 28 QB hurries, 24 tackles for loss, 10 pass breakups, 3 blocked kicks and an interception that year. Screw Ingram, Gerhart, and whoever the hell else was in the Heisman voting, if any defensive player deserved to get the Heisman, it was him.



This too, Suh had arguably the most dominant defensive season ever in cfb. Certainly the best for a defensive tackle ever.

Deserved it way more than Gerhart, Ingram/etc...
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:38 pm to
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Charles Woodson was the better athlete that year. The guy could do it all.


That year was absolutely stacked too. Tim Couch was 9th in voting that year. Randy Moss, Ryan Leaf (despite his post-college TURBLE), and Woodson were all in there too.

Speaking of Couch, for all the QB records he set and just how good he was by '98 I thought he sure as shite should've finished better then 4th in voting in '98. No way he was beating Ricky Williams though.
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:43 pm to
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Trent Richardson


Come on. No one by RG3 deserved that Heisman. After WEEK4 he had more TDs than incompletions.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
2560 posts
Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:47 pm to
T Rich > Ben Tate > Ingram


Thats more like it


This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:50 pm to
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Toby Gerhart

travesty of justice right here


LOL
Posted by vol017
Louisiana
Member since May 2009
4541 posts
Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:51 pm to
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T Rich > Ben Tate < Ingram



Ummm...as an Auburn fan, don't you have that backwards?

Or are you actually being realistic?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:52 pm to
Ndamukong Suh was the best defensive player in all of college football over the last decade. Offense and defense are equal, but offense is more flashy so it gets more attention. You can debate who the best offensive player was over the last 20 years, there are probably 35 you could make a decent case for... but really... Ndamukong Suh. Not even debatable.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:53 pm to
And that Alabama running back isn't even in the top 20 of college football players in the last 20 years.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:55 pm to
TG played against more top 30 defense than Ingram. So throw that out tHe window
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:57 pm to
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You give the award to the best player in the nation, not the best player on the best team.




This a million times over and over and over.

The MVP in pro sports is the same way, it's not the biggest star on one of the biggest teams.

The award should go to the player that is the best/most dominant/unstoppable etc.
Posted by ThunderCock69
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 2:59 pm to
Peyton
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46652 posts
Posted on 7/25/12 at 3:01 pm to
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Exactly. Factor in ypc. Toby had 5.45 ypc.. not too shabby. But not exactly Ingrams 6.12 ypc either. And as folks loved to point out that year and since, Bama was a running team first, so he was zeroed in on and still did better.



Ingram was not better than TG.
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