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re: Big 12/SEC Announcement coming today
Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:34 pm to engie
Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:34 pm to engie
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Your trying to play both sides of the coin here. You SUPPORT a setup that would leave out #2 Alabama, the CLEAR second-best team in the country in a playoff.
There was considerable debate about the #2 team in the country last year. Most football fans should recognize this much. And FWIW it would be nice to not see everything through only the window of justifying last year. If we could set that aside and try to think about the principles that should guide a playoff moving forward that would be major progress.
In using the terms 1 and 1a I thought it would be clear I was referring to years like 94, 97, 99, 2002, 2005 where there were two teams with pretty near identical credentials and no one else with an argument commonly accepted to be equally justified.
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Slive is specifically setting this up to PROVE the flaw in the "conference champions" logic
Slive is doing what he wants because it will make the SEC a boatload of cash. I normally applaud this motivation but based on my disdain for the Rose Bowl motivated +1 discussions I fear this will end up making a real playoff with 4 or 6 teams in the field less likely.
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:40 pm to molsusports
This all but ensures a 4 team playoff.
Notice how, in the announcement, they mention "if the conference champion is not playing in the semifinals."
Semifinals only occur in a 4 team playoff scenario.
Notice how, in the announcement, they mention "if the conference champion is not playing in the semifinals."
Semifinals only occur in a 4 team playoff scenario.
Posted on 5/18/12 at 1:43 pm to molsusports
I believe he is just leveraging his model of the 4-team playoff. I don't see why we are overcomplicating this.
The current BCS system has done a good job of providing a true, unquestioned national champ every year since 2004. It has done a questionable job of determining the 2nd team that should be in the game maybe. So, why not keep the system that's in place, take the top 4 teams, and have a playoff.
The more caveats that are put in place for "conference champs" etc simply overcomplicate matters and allow for more flaws in the process, like the specific scenario I pointed out.
#2 Bama gets into the playoff, we have a true national champion crowned from the SEC.
#2 Bama gets left out of playoffs, we likely crown LSU national champs, but on the outside chance LSU loses, we split the national championship vote.
He's leveraging this into allowing the 2nd team in by setting up a scenario that is likely to expose the flaw inherent to a situation where the 4 best teams aren't chosen.
The current BCS system has done a good job of providing a true, unquestioned national champ every year since 2004. It has done a questionable job of determining the 2nd team that should be in the game maybe. So, why not keep the system that's in place, take the top 4 teams, and have a playoff.
The more caveats that are put in place for "conference champs" etc simply overcomplicate matters and allow for more flaws in the process, like the specific scenario I pointed out.
#2 Bama gets into the playoff, we have a true national champion crowned from the SEC.
#2 Bama gets left out of playoffs, we likely crown LSU national champs, but on the outside chance LSU loses, we split the national championship vote.
He's leveraging this into allowing the 2nd team in by setting up a scenario that is likely to expose the flaw inherent to a situation where the 4 best teams aren't chosen.
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