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Tennessee's 6 mythical national championships

Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:07 pm
Posted by RMFTBama
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Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:07 pm
Tennessee claims the following 6 national titles:

1938
1940
1950
1951
1967
1998

In 1938, Tennessee went 11-0 and won the Orange Bowl, yet did not finish as #1 in either the AP or UPI poll. They did finish #1 in several other polls, like Houlgate, Dunkel, and Billingsley. These are some of the very same "retroactive" polls that are used as ammunition to discredit Alabama's titles. TCU was also undefeated and won the AP title.

In 1940, TN went 10-1 and LOST in the Sugar Bowl. Losing in a bowl game has widely been used as a means of discrediting Alabama's claimed titles, but we see here that TN uses the same system. Tennessee's national title is based on their recognition by Dunkel and Williamson, NOT the AP or UPI. Minnesota and Stanford were also BOTH UNDEFEATED in the 1940 season.

In 1950, Tennessee went 11-1, which was the same record that Kentucky had that year, though Tennessee did beat Kentucky. They did, however, lose to a Mississippi State team with a losing record. Oklahoma also had 1 loss and was awarded BOTH the AP and UPI titles, but Tennessee claims this one anyway.

In 1951, Tennessee (10-1) won the AP title, despite the fact that Michigan State AND Maryland were both undefeated and untied. Georgia Tech and Illinois were also both undefeated, though each team had a tie. So, among the 5 teams that claim some form of a national title in 1951, Tennessee was the only team with a loss.

In 1967, Tennessee went 9-2 and lost in the Orange Bowl. USC and Oklahoma were both 10-1, and USC claimed BOTH the UPI and AP titles. In the Orange Bowl, the Volunteers faced Oklahoma and lost. So, despite finishing with 2 losses and losing to a team with a better record (remind anyone of 'Bama in 1941?), Tennessee claims a title for 1967.

The 1998 Tennessee team, though perhaps the luckiest team to ever win a BCS title (even compared to '02 Ohio State and '07 LSU), earned arguably the only completely legitimate title for the Volunteers.
This post was edited on 1/20/10 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:09 pm to
I think it is against the law for a Bama fan to ever talk about any school and mythical championships...
Posted by Big Fat
"Fear the Hat" returns 2010
Member since Sep 2009
5404 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:12 pm to
So both UT and UA are full of shite
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

I think it is against the law for a Bama fan to ever talk about any school and mythical championships...



I think you are an idiot. A Tennessee fan started a flame thread about Alabama's "13 mythical titles" that is still on the front page of the SEC Rant. As you can see, Tennessee uses methods that are just as questionable as Alabama, yet criticize Alabama and have received no criticism themselves. It's time for some people to stop being hypocrites.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:13 pm to
Good Info and saved for a rainy day!
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15180 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:14 pm to
Oh good, finally someone but me pointed these out

Also:
In 1940 they lost the Sugar Bowl to undefeated Boston College
In 1951 they lost the Sugar Bowl to undefeated Maryland

I will say this though: Comparing 1967 to our 1941 isn't the same exactly. Atleast they won the SEC that year
This post was edited on 1/20/10 at 1:15 pm
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

So both UT and UA are full of shite


I am not saying UT is full of shite, nor do I think UA is. I am simply pointing out the fact that some schools, like Tennessee, claim national championships in a very similar manner to Alabama. And despite hundreds of threads talking about Alabama's claims, I've yet to see one challenging Tennessee.
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

I think you are an idiot. A Tennessee fan started a flame thread about Alabama's "13 mythical titles" that is still on the front page of the SEC Rant. As you can see, Tennessee uses methods that are just as questionable as Alabama, yet criticize Alabama and have received no criticism themselves. It's time for some people to stop being hypocrites.


I have never in my life saw a tshirt on a UT fan that says "Got 6"...Bama is the only school that promotes itself with the mythical national championships...
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
100000 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:14 pm to
Our mythical championships can beat up your mythical championships
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:16 pm to
none of these touch tSS real ncs
Posted by RMFTBama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2009
5285 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

I think you are an idiot.


quote:

I have never in my life saw a tshirt


Thanks for proving my point.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

So both UT and UA are full of shite


Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
2094 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:30 pm to
Both schools are full of shite when it comes these claims. We really have 3 National Titles. 1938, 1951, and 1998.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:30 pm to
quote:

tennfanatic


Jessica Alba

Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
2094 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Jessica Alba




Thank you Sir
Posted by Bankshot
Member since Jun 2006
5388 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:32 pm to
I think the schools that argues Bama's championships the most are Auburn and LSU since they are envious. The only one State fans ever argue against is 1941, since you didn't win the SEC that year.
Posted by UTVolCountry
Music City
Member since Jun 2008
2478 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

The only one State fans ever argue against is 1941, since you didn't win the SEC that year


So I guess that would make you somewhat envious, huh?

Pot meet kettle...
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
68288 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:36 pm to
I think you need to examine all of the "traditional" schools and how they claim national titles. You will find that all of them are very similar, especially the ones who claim titles before 1936.
Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
2094 posts
Posted on 1/20/10 at 1:37 pm to
Sorry my fellow Vol we are just as bad as Bama claiming National Titles in three of those years.
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