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Re: Conference Expansion: Missouri or Memphis?
Posted on 4/13/25 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 4/13/25 at 9:56 pm
If we were able to go back in time to circa 2011 when Missouri was set to join the SEC along with Texas A&M, would it be better to choose Memphis instead?
Let's face it, Missouri is a wet blanket. We all agree they ain't SEC. They would likely be better in the Big Ten and/or Big 12 had they stayed. They'd certainly be better off than Nebraska in the Big Ten.
Was Missouri really our best option at the time, or would Memphis have been a better choice?
Let's face it, Missouri is a wet blanket. We all agree they ain't SEC. They would likely be better in the Big Ten and/or Big 12 had they stayed. They'd certainly be better off than Nebraska in the Big Ten.
Was Missouri really our best option at the time, or would Memphis have been a better choice?
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Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:03 pm to SandstormOnHigh
Mizzou has played for the SEC title twice as much as SCar despite y'all having a 20 year headstart. Food for thought.
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:04 pm to SandstormOnHigh
Missouri by every single metric and it’s not close.
What the hell does Memphis add that you don’t already get from Ole Miss, Tennessee or Arkansas?
This is like asking “would Louisiana Tech be a better choice for the SEC than LSU?”
What the hell does Memphis add that you don’t already get from Ole Miss, Tennessee or Arkansas?
This is like asking “would Louisiana Tech be a better choice for the SEC than LSU?”
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:12 pm to SandstormOnHigh
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Was Missouri really our best option at the time, or would Memphis have been a better choice?
Hey thanks for putting us all on alert that you know nothing about the business of college football with your first post!
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:15 pm to GoGators1995
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Mizzou has played for the SEC title twice as much as SCar despite y'all having a 20 year headstart.
This is true, they've had higher highs than I would have expected. Their lows have also been much lower than I'm sure anyone expected.
Beyond the back to back division titles in football, what is their next highest athletic achievement? They are 1-5 in MBB postseason play, 3-4 in WBB postseason play, have 5 super regional trips in softball (2-9 record), have not earned a winning conference record in any baseball season (they did 15-15 in 2015), have won four bowl games in football. And they are not in the Southeast.
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:16 pm to SandstormOnHigh
Bringing up WBB and softball in a thread about conference expansion. 
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:17 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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This is like asking “would Louisiana Tech be a better choice for the SEC than LSU?”
I think I'd rather have Tulane (back) than Missouri though.
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What the hell does Memphis add that you don’t already get from Ole Miss, Tennessee or Arkansas?
What does Missouri add?
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:21 pm to SandstormOnHigh
Memphis, ummm no
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:23 pm to GoGators1995
quote:Come on, keep up, I brought up WBB and softball because I asked you to point towards Missouri's other athletic achievements. A school's AD is more than football and men's basketball. If Missouri has no other achievements to mention then just say that.
Bringing up WBB and softball in a thread about conference expansion.
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:25 pm to SandstormOnHigh
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:26 pm to SandstormOnHigh
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Missouri or Memphis?
both are garbage
Oklahoma State
Clemson
Miami
Florida State
Kansas
UNC
Duke
NC State
UVA
Va Tech
WVU
are all way better options than Missouri..
and it isn’t even close.. yall would have been better off with 13 teams than choosing Missouri.. they were as bad of an add as Rutgers or Maryland.
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:28 pm to SandstormOnHigh
Football is what drives conference expansion. Come on, keep up indeed.
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:31 pm to BigBro
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Was Missouri really our best option at the time, or would Memphis have been a better choice?
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are all way better options than Missouri..
Which team on your list would have brought more cable sport tier subscribers in their respective markets that they didn’t already have to better enable Slive to negotiate the blockbuster deal for the SEC Network at the time.
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:32 pm to GoGators1995
quote:I disagree, at the time of the 2010 realignments, markets were the main driver. Conferences wanted new markets for TV eyeballs. Missouri brought in a new state with two big markets (KC and STL), but in terms of athletic achievements, they've been a disappointment I'd say.
Football is what drives conference expansion.
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:32 pm to CelticTiger
Kansas
East Carolina - at least they are good at baseball.. and they have double the number of people as Missouri
East Carolina - at least they are good at baseball.. and they have double the number of people as Missouri
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:35 pm to SandstormOnHigh
And yet football drives conference expansion. Hope this helps!
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:37 pm to GoGators1995
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And yet football drives conference expansion. Hope this helps!
Except it doesn't. Why is Rutgers in the Big Ten? Because of their powerhouse football program or because they're in New Jersey and can bring in the NYC market?
This post was edited on 4/13/25 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:37 pm to BigBro
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Kansas
East Carolina
Are you high?
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:38 pm to SandstormOnHigh
What year is it?
Posted on 4/13/25 at 10:39 pm to BigBro
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Kansas
Your belief is that the state of Kansas had more subscribers to cable sports tiers than Missouri who had the Cardinals, Blues, Chiefs, Royals etc. etc.
Remember, the way the tiers were typically structured is if you wanted the Cardinals for example you subscribed to the tier, which would likely include the SEC Network whether you wanted it or not sending say $1.30 per month to ESPN. The addition of A&M gave Slive tremendous leverage and including Missouri sweetened the pot much more than Kansas would have.
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