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Random Question: LSU- Why do you not claim the 1946 SEC Basketball Title?

Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:57 pm
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2236 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 4:57 pm
Your athletic website does not show the 1945-46 team as a Championship team despite them going 8-0 in conference play.

Meanwhile Kentucky went 6-0 and claims the regular season title outright.

Shouldn’t it be reversed?
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10430 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:00 pm to
Just wanted to point out, the players on this team were in elementary school when A&M won their only national title.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2236 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:01 pm to
Another interesting tidbit…

In 1934-35, Kentucky went 11-0 in SEC play. LSU went 12-0. Both do claim this title, but shouldn’t the rule be that LSU would have it outright due to one extra win?
Posted by PSS101
Member since Jun 2024
244 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:05 pm to
LSU has a 1908 recognized NCAA football title that it does not recognize at all.
Posted by Lt. Columbo
Member since Nov 2012
502 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:09 pm to
Cause they ain't Bama
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86767 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Cause they ain't Bama


Or OSU and TENN
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
8177 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:18 pm to
Claiming titles retrocatively is lame. Claim it when it happens or let it go
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2236 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

Cause they ain't Bama


Yeah but they actually won this one. That’s a big difference.

Any as far as claiming it retroactively, I guess the better question is why was it not claimed at the time? They clearly went unbeaten in SEC play.
Posted by Temple of the Dog
Member since Nov 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:22 pm to
quote:


Cause they ain't Bama


LSU claims the 1935 national title



quote:

LSU has claimed a national championship for the 1935 season (pre-NCAA tournament), but not on the basis of any determination by an external selector. (LSU is the only school that officially claims a national championship on the basis of a win in the American Legion Bowl, an event that made no claim to determine a national champion.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
103164 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Any as far as claiming it retroactively, I guess the better question is why was it not claimed at the time? They clearly went unbeaten in SEC play.


My guess is it depends on whether they were utilizing tiebreakers at the time. If so, there was no head to head (outside of the SEC Tournament) but I believe Kentucky had the better overall record (with OOC).
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2236 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

but I believe Kentucky had the better overall record (with OOC).


LSU had the better conference record. Has the SEC ever factored OOC record into any sport’s standings?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
103164 posts
Posted on 2/3/25 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

LSU had the better conference record. Has the SEC ever factored OOC record into any sport’s standings?


I don't know about standings, but they use tiebreakers for SEC Tournament seeding that have varied over time.

ETA: They were both undefeated which would result in a tie either way. You couldn't necessarily say "better" unless they were playing a round robin schedule, in which would have a head to head to determine the standing.
This post was edited on 2/3/25 at 5:54 pm
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
18038 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:05 am to
The titles are ours. Give it up.
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
13243 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 2:18 am to
Idk thats a good question. We have another footbsll natty from the 1908 season as well that we haven't claimed to this day. So, we truly have 5 nattys in football... not 4. Our fans don't get it either bc it's completely legit. We were named co champs with Penn state by the National Championship Foundation and just as much a right to the claim as penn state does. It makes zero sense and it still pisses our fanbass off. Im sure that eventually our AD will finally claim it but still.
This post was edited on 2/4/25 at 2:42 am
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
4062 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 9:06 am to
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Cause they ain't Bama

LSU literally made up a self claimed "title" in basketball.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2236 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 11:34 am to
quote:

LSU literally made up a self claimed "title" in basketball.


Yeah. Many titles are subjective. This one is not. It’s literally just the standings.

1945-1946 SEC Basketball Standings: LINK

Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
2295 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

We were named co champs with Penn state by the National Championship Foundation and just as much a right to the claim as penn state does.


The fact that LSU fans like yourself don't even know which school you "shared" the title with might be a good reason as to why you should not claim it.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
2236 posts
Posted on 2/4/25 at 12:52 pm to
Any football “national title” prior to the 1936 season is not real. They are all retroactively claimed and highly subjective.
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