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The SEC screwed up by pushing Bama over Ole Miss
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:44 pm
The Rebs were:
2-0 vs the top 25 vs 3-1 for Bama
-Beat UGA by a larger margin 18 vs 7
-Beat USC by a larger margin 24 vs 2, on the road
- had a more palatable ugly loss, by 3 in Week 5 vs by 21 in week 14
- could have used “perception of strong SEC” vs “not a Bama mulligan, AGAIN”
- had only one loss to a team without a winning record vs 2 for Bama
- all of their losses were by 7 points or fewer
- 3 losses by combined 13 vs Bama by 28
If Sankey and the pro-Gump media would have done the right thing and supported more deserving Ole Miss getting in, the SEC would have gotten four teams.
2-0 vs the top 25 vs 3-1 for Bama
-Beat UGA by a larger margin 18 vs 7
-Beat USC by a larger margin 24 vs 2, on the road
- had a more palatable ugly loss, by 3 in Week 5 vs by 21 in week 14
- could have used “perception of strong SEC” vs “not a Bama mulligan, AGAIN”
- had only one loss to a team without a winning record vs 2 for Bama
- all of their losses were by 7 points or fewer
- 3 losses by combined 13 vs Bama by 28
If Sankey and the pro-Gump media would have done the right thing and supported more deserving Ole Miss getting in, the SEC would have gotten four teams.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:45 pm to lsusa
Sorry, nobody cares about Ole Miss.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:47 pm to lewis and herschel
I do.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:47 pm to lsusa
I agree...his inability to recognize "bama fatigue" really cost us a spot.
But the playoff committee baited him into backing bama though by ranking them higher..and he foolishly took the bait.
He should have gotten some smarter people around him did better. I think either OM or SC would have been a better horse to back.
But the playoff committee baited him into backing bama though by ranking them higher..and he foolishly took the bait.
He should have gotten some smarter people around him did better. I think either OM or SC would have been a better horse to back.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 12:51 pm to lsusa
Maybe
But just missing as the 12th qualified team is a pretty weak grievance.
They still had an in until they lost to Florida. In spite of losing to Kentucky at home
But just missing as the 12th qualified team is a pretty weak grievance.
They still had an in until they lost to Florida. In spite of losing to Kentucky at home
Posted on 12/8/24 at 2:26 pm to lewis and herschel
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Sorry, nobody cares about Ole Miss.
I am 1000% in the “Go to Hell Ole Miss, Go to Hell!” category, but I want what’s good for the league. Ole Miss was much more deserving than Bama. It’s bad for the league we only got three teams in.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:03 am to lsusa
All of this whining now about “the SEC” getting screwed is nothing more than low-information, low-IQ types falling for Bama propaganda. The fact is, it’s the entitled Gumps thinking they deserve yet another mulligan.
Let’s be clear about Bama’s schedule. Against the five teams they played with .500 or below records, Bama was 3-2.
Yes, Bama had a quality win over #2 UGA by 7 points and over USC by 2. They also beat up a depleted Mizzou team with a very hollow top
25 ranking.
If the had only lost to 6-6 Vandy, you could offer that it was early in the season and a one-off and excuse it like Notre Dame’s loss to Northern Illinois. But then Alabama, in the penultimate week of the year, lost by THREE TOUCHDOWNS to 6-6 Oklahoma.
Let’s be clear about Bama’s schedule. Against the five teams they played with .500 or below records, Bama was 3-2.
Yes, Bama had a quality win over #2 UGA by 7 points and over USC by 2. They also beat up a depleted Mizzou team with a very hollow top
25 ranking.
If the had only lost to 6-6 Vandy, you could offer that it was early in the season and a one-off and excuse it like Notre Dame’s loss to Northern Illinois. But then Alabama, in the penultimate week of the year, lost by THREE TOUCHDOWNS to 6-6 Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 11:12 am
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:04 am to lsusa
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All of this whining now about “the SEC” getting screwed is nothing more than low-information, low-IQ types falling for Bama propaganda.
Muh this isn't about Bama, we're just looking out for you guys. If we got screwed, imagine how much worse you'll get screwed.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:13 am to Jeepin_Josh
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should have gotten some smarter people around him did better. I think either OM or SC would have been a better horse to back.
This was all set in motion through protecting LSU vs SC back in week 3. Had that not happened, SC is 10-2, and walks into the playoffs.
To double down on this, SC should have been promoted over Bama back last Tuesday. The win over Clemson, when Clemson was essentially guaranteed a playoff berth, could have put SC at 11. Then, when Clemson beats SMU, it's an easy explanation to say SC is better than SMU, and even though we're not punishing Conf Champ losers, this is a unique situation between SMU, Clemson, and SC because of the nature of the games between them. SC then gets in at 12, SMU doesn't have a realistic gripe because SC did what they couldn't literally a week prior, and the SEC has 4 teams in.
Sankey was myopic as hell. Anyone paying attention saw this for exactly what it was, at the time, last Tuesday.
I know, I know, WIN MOAR GAMES. Anyone watching football knows SC is a top-12 team this year, and could do damage in thr CFP and promote the conference well.
I feel badly for Ole Miss. They had a better argument than Bama did, too. And they have a better argument than SC does, due to the lopsided nature of the H2H result. But the schedule, and who played whom, and when, favored SC this weekend when accounting for the Clemson ACC championship. I'd say the same for Ole Miss if they had played/beat Clemson last week.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:15 am to SidewalkTiger
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Muh this isn't about Bama, we're just looking out for you guys. If we got screwed, imagine how much worse you'll get screwed.
Exactly. Which is the point of this thread - Ole Miss had a much stronger case to be in the playoffs than Bama did.
Their 3-point, week 5 loss to Kentucky was much more excusable as an outlier than Bama’s two losses to teams without a winning record.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:15 am to REBEL5 AC
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I do.
I've been asking you this for years, but why do you use LSU flair?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:21 am to lsusa
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Their 3-point, week 5 loss to Kentucky was much more excusable as an outlier than Bama’s two losses to teams without a winning record.
Agreed. I'm sorry to anyone who disagrees but a 3 point fluke loss to Kentucky isn't as bad as a 21 point arse whipping loss to Oklahoma.
Ole Miss loses were all very close.
3 points to Kentucky and LSU
7 points to Florida
Still, none of us deserved it and we can only blame ourselves, but we deserved it more than Bama did.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:21 am to lsusa
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Ole Miss had a much stronger case to be in the playoffs than Bama did
Media didn’t even reference OM when comparing Bama and SC for the final spot. The Florida game closed the door on any playoff discussion. Dart wasn’t able to win it when needed (and injured), lost Tre Harris again, and couldn’t run the ball worth a shite.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:31 am to Saskwatch
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Media didn’t even reference OM when comparing Bama and SC for the final spot. The Florida game closed the door on any playoff discussion. Dart wasn’t able to win it when needed (and injured), lost Tre Harris again, and couldn’t run the ball worth a shite.
My question is, why did a 7-point loss to an “improving” Florida team (that upset LSU the week before, and beat FSU to end the season) shut the door on any discussion of Ole Miss….but Bama’s 21-point loss to an Oklahoma team that otherwise went 0-2 in their last three games didn’t shut (or slam?) the door for Bama?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:34 am to lsusa
No one cares about ole miss, and they lost at home to UK. No coming back from that.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:35 am to Saskwatch
I would have been fine with Ole Miss over us, but I was never okay with the prospect of Bama in - well, that's a lie. I was, insomuch that it kept Clemson out of the playoffs (i.e., Bama was in with a SMU win)
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:37 am to lsusa
Alabama went 0-2 against..
2-6 Oklahoma
3-5 Vanderbilt
Ole Miss went 0-2 against..
1-7 Kentucky
4-4 Florida
If either team had won one of those games, they would be in the playoffs right now. That's true for both of them.
The SEC should have 4-5 teams in this season. Alabama and Ole Miss shite the bed. It's as easy as that.
2-6 Oklahoma
3-5 Vanderbilt
Ole Miss went 0-2 against..
1-7 Kentucky
4-4 Florida
If either team had won one of those games, they would be in the playoffs right now. That's true for both of them.
The SEC should have 4-5 teams in this season. Alabama and Ole Miss shite the bed. It's as easy as that.
This post was edited on 12/9/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:46 am to kywildcatfanone
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No one cares about ole miss, and they lost at home to UK. No coming back from that.
This is the problem with some SEC fans. A year or two down the road, it could very well be your team that is in the same position as an Ole Miss (or South Carolina) and needs the league to advocate for it being in the playoffs.
So how do you, as a Kentucky fan, feel about Alabama losing by 21-points to a 6-6 team? Or if want to go with the name recognition angle since, about Alabama losing to Vanderbilt? Would you agree “there no coming back from that” for either loss? Wouldn’t both be doubly as damaging?
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:46 am to RoyalAir
I will start this by saying, don't lose 3 games.
But, I just don't understand this infatuation with South Carolina. I mean, they won their last 6 games
, but it wasn't like they were really dominant and in at least 2 of them, they eked out wins. I mean they won the games and that counts for something but at no point was I just blown away by watching them (maybe the A&M game but was that the only dominant performance all year?). And it's not like Ole Miss or Alabama were really playing that poorly down the stretch, yes they both had a bad game, but they also played really well and dominated teams during that stretch too. In the case of Ole Miss, their bad game was losing on the road to a much improved Florida team with budding star at quarterback by a touchdown. Yes, Alabama laid a complete egg.
Maybe it's because nothing was expected from them? This is a team that has some pieces in place and should go big in the portal for some difference makers and really contend for a spot next year. Personally, I just didn't see it this year.
All to say, by grouping them in with Ole Miss and Alabama, I think it hurt the league's chances of getting that 4th team in. Missouri was 9-3 also and you didn't hear them mentioned. In my mind, South Carolina was more similar to them than they were Ole Miss or Alabama.
But, I just don't understand this infatuation with South Carolina. I mean, they won their last 6 games
, but it wasn't like they were really dominant and in at least 2 of them, they eked out wins. I mean they won the games and that counts for something but at no point was I just blown away by watching them (maybe the A&M game but was that the only dominant performance all year?). And it's not like Ole Miss or Alabama were really playing that poorly down the stretch, yes they both had a bad game, but they also played really well and dominated teams during that stretch too. In the case of Ole Miss, their bad game was losing on the road to a much improved Florida team with budding star at quarterback by a touchdown. Yes, Alabama laid a complete egg. Maybe it's because nothing was expected from them? This is a team that has some pieces in place and should go big in the portal for some difference makers and really contend for a spot next year. Personally, I just didn't see it this year.
All to say, by grouping them in with Ole Miss and Alabama, I think it hurt the league's chances of getting that 4th team in. Missouri was 9-3 also and you didn't hear them mentioned. In my mind, South Carolina was more similar to them than they were Ole Miss or Alabama.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 11:50 am to lsusa
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My question is, why did a 7-point loss to an “improving” Florida team (that upset LSU the week before, and beat FSU to end the season) shut the door on any discussion of Ole Miss
I think it showed that OM had become rather impotent offensively. Bama was too but Bama likely got the benefit of the doubt because they were relatively heathy and everyone assumes Milroe can be a worldbeater running they ball when they decide to do it.
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