Started By
Message

What does it take?

Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:58 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42847 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:58 pm
To stop putting the ball on the ground and committing penalties?

Coaching. That isn't the answer, expound.

Turnovers werw the reason for all but 2 losses on the season going back to the second game of the season.

It was never corrected or seemingly addressed outside of a Biden line in the sand of don't.

Arkansas seemingly had more penalties for more yards than their opponents all season long (may not be 100 accurate but seems to be).

What specifically could of should of been done to correct both that obviously wasn't and why isn't the staff being grilled on this topic in the pressers than questions leading to aww shucks as an acceptable answer?
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8948 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 8:52 pm to
When QB1 isn't held to any type of ball protection standard, no one else on the roster will. Hes supposed to set the tone.

Turning it over is THE most deadly thing a qb can do to his team and Green does it so often its expected. It's embarrassing he wasn't benched for it early.
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 8:53 pm
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
36952 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 8:57 pm to
Fire Yuracuck


0-7 in Como is unacceptable


Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84074 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 8:58 pm to
I’m curious whose decision it is to keep green at QB1 and also wondering how bad we would have been without Petrino. Everyone says sam is safe because we are bowl bound. Sam doesn’t get 6 wins without Bobby and I’m not a Bobby fanatic.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25563 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:18 pm to
If I was Pittman, I would have told Petrino no on Green and tell him to get us a QB and not another Jefferson project.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8948 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:47 pm to
I know we over paid for KJ last year and it appears we did with Green this year, if the 1mm number is anywhere near true.

I've got to assume someone writing the checks for this nonsense just refuses to let "their guy" sit on the fricking bench.

Green playing despite awful performances reeks of the same Devo love from last basketball season.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2530 posts
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:53 pm to
I would think protection of the ball is normally practiced for everyone. As the season goes on, the ones who do not protect it will lose playing time. That wasn't an option for us, according the coaches.
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
39377 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 1:16 am to
quote:

What specifically could of should of been done to correct both that obviously wasn't

It's hard to know what was and wasn't done based practices being so locked down .....


My take on it. Every fumble in practice becomes extra work for the team, something unpleasant like bleachers.

Ball security drills shoulda been integrated into every practice and almost every activity in some way.

It should be talked about everyday as the biggest thing. Hell just carrying the ball loosely like we do at times should be immediately called out and corrected.

From a penalty perspective that's gotta be in position coaching how you play the position. My biggest grievance here is false start penalties. That's 100% on coaches and players on communication and methodology of when people start going and where there eyes are...


Ultimately if you continue fumbling and committing penalties it would result in no playing time or reduced playing time in case of green.

And if all that doesn't work you've failed in recruiting so badly that it just doesn't matter.

To me though these don't look like things we work on and think about daily. They seem like after thoughts.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8077 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 3:48 am to
quote:

If I was Pittman, I would have told Petrino no on Green and tell him to get us a QB and not another Jefferson project.


We thought he was going to be that. And he showed glimpses of that. No one knows you can’t read a defense or go through progressions until you watch them in practice. By then it was too late as he was given the job before being on campus.

If the job isn’t open heading into bowl game and definitely heading into spring we are fukt next year.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8077 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 3:50 am to
quote:

Green playing despite awful performances reeks of the same Devo love from last basketball season.


I legitimately believe half our fans are retarded. Maybe it’s just the fans I see on different social medias. None were blaming the players for fumbling. They were blaming Bobby for not scoring. But he scores when the players don’t fumble.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8948 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:27 am to
Green has someone open almost every play. I know sometimes he doesn't have time to throw, but he also doesn't deserve the 3 or 4 seconds he often takes either.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17158 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:40 am to
quote:

Ultimately if you continue fumbling and committing penalties it would result in no playing time or reduced playing time in case of green. And if all that doesn't work you've failed in recruiting so badly that it just doesn't matter.
I’ve come to realize it’s the 2nd I think. We sold out on getting players from the transfer portal but those guys were there for a reason. So even the ones that are physically gifted do dumb shite and don’t have much mentally which is why they weren’t starting at their first school. We need to focus more on recruiting and developing high school players and retaining them on the roster, only using the portal to fill certain needs. We don’t need 48 transfers coming in every year
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25563 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:40 am to
The red flag was that he struggled against MWC competition not as a true freshman but as a redshirt sophomore.

You want players from the portal that either shown improvement or dominated the lower divisions. A good example is Andrew Armstrong.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25563 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:45 am to
Arkansas gets the transfers that nobody wants.

Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17158 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Arkansas gets the transfers that nobody wants.
or we’re just really bad at evaluating talent. Hell Kyle McCord and Haynes king went to Syracuse and Georgia fricking tech. I know we haven’t been dominant but if those are the teams they went to we should’ve at least made an offer.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25563 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:50 am to
I feel bad for Teslaa.

I feel like his talent was wasted here.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
84074 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Haynes king


He was arse at A&M I can see why he would be looked over. Good for him that he had a great year though but he likely would’ve not been as good in the SEC.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42847 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:18 am to
People say him because Petrino spent a year coaching him ignoring Petrino actually got the guy he wanted ever since he as in HS in Green.

Petrino was fixated with the dual threat QB while here recruiting them but winning with traditional prostyle QBs in Mallett and Wilson. He went all in after Arkansas and isn't going back. My theory is he believes a QB who can run can pick up yardage with their legs to mask bad play calls, lack of skill and talent in the oline and we positions.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
36952 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 11:53 am to
Petrino thought Taylen could be another Lamar Jackson.

Sadly, Taylen can't read a defense and is highly inaccurate.

The most frustrating thing is this was easily a 9 win team that Titboss mismanaged.

Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
17158 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

He was arse at A&M I can see why he would be looked over.
he was hurt quite a bit if I remember correctly and Aggie has been better than us most year including those he was there
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on X and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter