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Still not sold on Durkin

Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:00 am
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3143 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:00 am
Overall, Auburn played a lot of weaker offenses this season, inflating the defensive numbers. Durkin continues to struggle calling games against competent offenses and is horrible on 3rd down (especially 3rd and longs).

I hope someone can prove me wrong in this thread but I think he's fool's gold. I'm afraid that even when the offense improves next season with the addition of a new QB, the defense will cost us some games.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19399 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:06 am to
You’re right that there’s evidence he struggles on 3rd down, but we still have some talent deficiencies that need to be filled.

Our linebackers are barely competitive for the SEC. While we have some improved bright spots on the defensive line, none are really superstars. Maybe Faulk can blossom into one going into next year. Our secondary is really strong but we’ve had injuries there and have young guys playing a lot of important roles.

I like Durkin because he’s an exciting coach with a lot of energy that resonates with the players. He’s no where near bad enough to fire especially with recruiting going the way it has.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30269 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:13 am to
We couldn’t do better than Durkin, can’t fire everyone after one year
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 7:14 am
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3143 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:16 am to
Im not advocating firing him (yet). I guess I'm just more amazed that there's a dumb group of people pushing to fire Freeze and hire Durkin as HC. I know it won't happen (this year at least) but it seems like something the PTB would do down the road.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11841 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:55 am to
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You’re right that there’s evidence he struggles on 3rd down, but we still have some talent deficiencies that need to be filled.

Our linebackers are barely competitive for the SEC. While we have some improved bright spots on the defensive line, none are really superstars. Maybe Faulk can blossom into one going into next year. Our secondary is really strong but we’ve had injuries there and have young guys playing a lot of important roles.

I like Durkin because he’s an exciting coach with a lot of energy that resonates with the players. He’s no where near bad enough to fire especially with recruiting going the way it has.
I have complained my fair share about Durkin, but I have to keep reminding myself that he's only as good as the players he has to work with. Who are our best defensive players and how much experience do they have? Answer those two questions and all the other questions seem to answer themselves.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
6127 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:01 am to
quote:

I have complained my fair share about Durkin, but I have to keep reminding myself that he's only as good as the players he has to work with. Who are our best defensive players and how much experience do they have? Answer those two questions and all the other questions seem to answer themselves.


Same here … not sold on Durkin yet. But I keep wondering how good our D would be if they had a complimentary Offense that could give them a chance to catch their breath. We need DL depth
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
20510 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:06 am to
I just hate the scheme and the personnel rotations. We have to blitz if we want any pressure on a QB because he plays so much 3-4. We don't have the guys up front for that scheme to work to it's potential. Crawford had a decent first half but McLeod seems to have gone MIA all season. Our best players are in the secondary.

There's no reason Riddick should ever come off the field for Keys or Mausi. He is just too disruptive. I don't think I've ever seen a team rotate middle linebacker like they're linemen like we do.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3143 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:07 am to
I think we all can admit that, after we were up 21-0, that was a colossal defensive meltdown yesterday. I am curious to see if his schemes this season have been due to lack of talent/experience on the defensive side of the ball and the inability of the offense to sustain drives.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15091 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:08 am to
Pretty much everybody in the stadium groaned when auburn gave up the 3rd and 15 by rushing 3 and getting no pressure. Absolutely back breaking when that has occurred in multiple games.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
41204 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:13 am to
Durkin held up the team for most of the year with second half adjustments, but he had no answer for third and long. He accomplished getting off the field a couple of times in the most clutch moments but is no where near dependable. He is a good coach, but what he put on the field is disappointing.

Durkin needs to figure out this whole third and long thing. He is about to drive me up a fricking wall.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:23 am
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
6127 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:17 am to
Our O consistently leaves our D a pile of crap to work with.
Our Special Teams consistently leaves our O a pile of crap too.

Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11841 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:20 am to
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Pretty much everybody in the stadium groaned when auburn gave up the 3rd and 15 by rushing 3 and getting no pressure. Absolutely back breaking when that has occurred in multiple games.
I'll play Devil's Advocate. IF you have a dominate, experience secondary, you can afford to blitz on 3rd and long. If you don't, you have to play the odds on drop more guys into coverage. It is what it is. Blame Durkin all you want, but he is forced to work with what he has, and what is dictated by down and distance.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
20510 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:21 am to
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Our O consistently leaves our D a pile of crap to work with.

For sure. I can't even count the amount of times the defense has a been on the field for 10 or more plays and the offense comes out and goes 3 and out and milks about 20 seconds off the clock.

The amount of games we lost TOP has to be a lot this season.
Posted by SagesSon
Member since Apr 2019
938 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:32 am to
3rd and Durkin. I hate to see this situation. Defense gets the other team to third and 9+ yards and a blind man can call the D. Rush 3 and drop to zone coverage. I find Durkin's "no blitz", let alone a 4th rusher, is mind-numbing.

For the love of the game, I hope he breaks his stubbornness against UA and have a 4 man rush or blitz in those 3rd and Durkins.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3729 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:35 am to
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Crawford had a decent first half but McLeod seems to have gone MIA all season.


McCleod has 7 sacks (as many as Faulk) and 5 of those have come against SEC teams. He had what should have been a game-sealing sack against Oklahoma, and he had a sack at the end of last night that preserved the game. He had 2 sacks against Missouri in a game that we also should have won.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
6127 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:59 am to
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The amount of games we lost TOP has to be a lot this season.


Auburn currently ranks 92nd nationally in ToP ( not including overtime)

46% at home, 54% away …. go figure
Posted by Tickytiger
Auburn, AL
Member since Sep 2015
1384 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:00 am to
Every time I see that 3 man rush I flash back to last years Iron Bowl.
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
593 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:08 am to
I don't like some of his calls either, but you have to bear in mind that our D rarely has fewer than four TRUE FRESHMEN on the field and sometimes as many as seven!

Our arguably three best D players, Faulk, Riddick and Blocton, are a true soph and two true freshmen. Riddick just figured out the game enough to be on the field most of the time within the past 3-4 games. Blocton needs a couple of years of S&C, and could prove to be our next Nick Fairley - who wasn't THAT Nick Fairley until his Sr year. This time last year, he was lifting in a HS weight room.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8083 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:48 am to
It's hard to game plan around that much inexperience in the secondary but I agree that we should never just blitz 3. We don't have the talent up front to make that work.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3729 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:53 am to
Some of these takes are wild lol. Malik Blocton is one of our 3 best defensive players all of a sudden? The guy with 12 tackles and 1.5 sacks on the season?

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