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OT... Freddy Freeman, former Brave...

Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:12 am
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:12 am
1s walk off grand slam homer in World Series history last night for the Dodgers.

Braves couldn't afford to keep him.

Congrats Freddie...


Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:19 am to
Matt Olson had 7 more HRs and 10 more RBI this season and didn’t have the hitters around him that Freddie had.

I loved Freddie when he was here, but he wanted too much, for too long at his age. We locked in a younger version of him for longer and paying less.

$ for $, we got a much better deal.

Doesn’t mean I didn’t love FF when he was here and still like when he does well
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7983 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:45 am to
$140 million was more than enough. I don't know what LA offered him but once you factor in CA taxes he may not be all that far ahead vs the ATL offer.

These goobers make too much money. It's hard to rally around athletes who complain or feel slighted when they're making more than any of us will ever see in our lifetimes.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:50 am to
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but once you factor in CA taxes


Yes it’s definitely more in taxes and cost of living. But just so you know, you pay taxes in the State you play the game in. So his whole salary wasn’t against California taxes…and Olson he probably played 20-30 games in California
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 9:56 am to
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I loved Freddie when he was here, but he wanted too much, for too long at his age. We locked in a younger version of him for longer and paying less.

Truth.

And if I recall correctly, I believe Freeman was not happy that his agent painted him in a corner such that he had to take the LA deal, or was never informed of Atlanta's final offer (which he would have accepted). He fired his agent like 5 minutes after the deal went down.
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 10:10 am
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 10:30 am to
Matt also played 15 more games than Freddie.

Freddie had a better WAR, BA, OBP, OPS, and OPS+

Freddie was the Chipper for this generation he should have been a lifetime Brave. His agent and AA fricked up the whole thing.

Olsen is fine but I'd take still take Freddie. I look for Olsens bat to ball skills to continue to decline. Where as Freddie is one of the best pure hitters in the league and probably always will be
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
22788 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 10:34 am to
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Matt also played 15 more games than Freddie.


So we got even more value than I mentioned. Excellent!! So we really, really did better $ for $, as we got more games out of Olsen
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
25337 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 10:41 am to
Well, no. He provided less value to our team despite playing more games, than Freddie did for the Dodgers.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/26/24 at 10:44 am to
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Braves couldn't afford to keep him.


He wanted to play in LA
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
22788 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 11:18 am to
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Well, no. He provided less value to our team despite playing more games, than Freddie did for the Dodgers


So more HR, same amount of Rs and more RBI is less value? I think what you mean, is we paid a dude to play 162 games and he did. Dodgers had to pay even more for another guy to play those 15 games….so we got more value

It’s also a lot easier to hit for FF, considering, the guys around him this season
This post was edited on 10/26/24 at 11:24 am
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
25337 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 12:03 pm to
It's funny that you are touting Olsons RBI numbers and then claiming it's easier for Freddie due to the lineup.

And yes I will take the player that has the better OPS over HR and RBIs. Check the walks and strikeout numbers.

Freddie has been the better player since he moved to LA. that might change as time goes forward, but I doubt it. Olson has a huge hole in his long arse swing and I don't see that improving.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
46069 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Freddie has been the better player since he moved to LA. that might change as time goes forward, but I doubt it


Olson's 2023 season was something that Freeman could never do.
Posted by muttenstein
Member since Oct 2012
2687 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 1:22 pm to
I was very happy for him. That was great. He’s an awesome person.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
25337 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 1:32 pm to
Olson is a better slugger than Freddie true. Id still take Freddie everyday
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
38029 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 8:13 pm to
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Matt also played 15 more games than Freddie.

Freddie had a better WAR, BA, OBP, OPS, and OPS+

Freddie was the Chipper for this generation he should have been a lifetime Brave. His agent and AA fricked up the whole thing.

Olsen is fine but I'd take still take Freddie. I look for Olsens bat to ball skills to continue to decline. Where as Freddie is one of the best pure hitters in the league and probably always will be

Look we'd all take Freddie.

But Matt still has the 2nd best WAR of any first baseman in baseball. Let's not act like he's chopped liver.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
38029 posts
Posted on 10/26/24 at 8:14 pm to
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I loved Freddie when he was here, but he wanted too much, for too long at his age. We locked in a younger version of him for longer and paying less.


quote:

Truth.

And if I recall correctly, I believe Freeman was not happy that his agent painted him in a corner such that he had to take the LA deal, or was never informed of Atlanta's final offer (which he would have accepted). He fired his agent like 5 minutes after the deal went down.

Don't let Broski on the MSB see this.
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