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Expanded Playoff Impact

Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31795 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:33 pm
This is the first weekend it really sucks. Marquee game of the season tomorrow and it's basically irrelevant. Sure it makes more games like Boise State Washington State more meaningful but not really an equal trade imo. Get off my lawn and all but I miss when regular season college football games meant everything.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4219 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:35 pm to
Win or lose tomorrow I’m not sweating it. First time I can say that the day before a big game.
Posted by 49 to nada
In aggy and gooner heads, rent free
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:35 pm to
Think of it this way: in the past having more than one loss meant there is little or no chance of playoffs much less playing in the NCCG. Pretty much all teams that matter are still alive, even if it's just on paper.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31795 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:37 pm to
Right and I liked it better that way. It was 12-13 weeks where every game matters. Now it's a couple of games during the regular season and then a way too long drawn out corporate playoff.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15054 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:37 pm to
You are wrong. The multitude of meaningful games in late October/ November outweighs your point.

Teams trying to make conference title game and teams on bubble trying to get in make a shite ton more meaning games that about 4 in the SEC all year.

Just do the math on the top 6 teams in the SEC and they all play 3-4 loseable games. They are important to the playoff picture.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 5:39 pm
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
524 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:38 pm to
Georgia/Alabama is not irrelevant to me and I'm not even a fan of those schools. It should have as high quality, high intensity football as it gets in the college game.

Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:38 pm to
LSU lost 2 regular season games in 2007. Saban won 6 titles at Alabama and went undefeated twice. Regular season games have rarely "mattered" in the way you mean.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31795 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:38 pm to
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Just do the math on the top 6 teams in the SEC and they all play 3-4 lose able games.


Right, they play maybe 3 losable games and all they have to do is go 1-2 in those games and they are in the playoff. That's dumb.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31795 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:40 pm to
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LSU lost 2 regular season games in 2007.


Way to select the statistical outlier from nearly 150 years of college football being played.

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Saban won 6 titles at Alabama and went undefeated twice


Yes, he got very fortunate with a few of those but you were never guaranteed anything with a loss and had to approach every game as such. Look at UGA last year.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31795 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:41 pm to
It may not be irrelevant to you but to the college football playoff it is thus there is no way the intensity level can be what you describe.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
13225 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:42 pm to
it still matters.. some teams with 2 losses may not make the playoffs

whoever loses Saturday can’t lose again and know for sure they are in the playoffs..

and the winner gets the tiebreaker if they both end up with 1 or 2
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
4219 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:43 pm to
Remember a few years ago when some NFC East team won the division and secured a playoff spot with like 5 wins? I don’t ever see the college football version of that.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15054 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:45 pm to
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Right, they play maybe 3 losable games and all they have to do is go 1-2 in those games and they are in the playoff. That's dumb.


Ahhh this is a troll thread. Carry on.
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
524 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:47 pm to
That's just your opinion. I bet the stadium will be loud tomorrow annd the fans will be rowdy. If you need to to manufacture a reason to not watch tomorrow, be my guest.

The expanded playoff has only intensified my interest in the sport because it makes roster and depth management even more critical. That and it added access for more teams than ever to have a shot on tge field to win it all.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31795 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:51 pm to
Your last point I agree with but frankly those teams should have started their own division with their own championship long ago
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
27408 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:51 pm to
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LSU lost 2 regular season games in 2007. Saban won 6 titles at Alabama and went undefeated twice. Regular season games have rarely "mattered" in the way you mean.


The games always mattered because the part you are leaving out is that other teams had to lose in order for that to happen. And when they didn't, tough luck. Just like Alabama got assed out in 2013.

If Alabama makes a playoff in 2013, and they would have even with only 4, they likely win it again that year and the Auburn game that kept Alabama out would have then become meaningless.

Alabama and every team that lost also lost control of it's destiny in the process. You had no idea if the other teams were going to lose or not, every game mattered regardless of your narrow view.
This post was edited on 9/27/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18267 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 5:53 pm to
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Georgia/Alabama is not irrelevant to me and I'm not even a fan of those schools. It should have as high quality, high intensity football as it gets in the college game.


Agreed, the only difference is one of the best teams in the country won’t be eliminated from being able to compete for the championship just because they scheduled each other during the season. For the players, the coaches, tomorrow still matters. The two biggest names in CFB sparring again to see if Bama still rules under Deboer or if it’s the Dawgs time to shine.

Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:05 pm to
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Alabama and every team that lost also lost control of it's destiny in the process. You had no idea if the other teams were going to lose or not, every game mattered regardless of your narrow view.


You can pick and choose years that support both sides. FSU's games didn't seem to matter at all last year. I understand the argument and the nostalgia for the way it was. I just don't agree that it makes the sport worse.

The vast majority (like 99.9%) of college champions have had zero or one loss. That percentage may fall to 95% with the expanded playoff. I don't view that as a bad thing.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
27408 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:14 pm to
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You can pick and choose years that support both sides. FSU's games didn't seem to matter at all last year. I understand the argument and the nostalgia for the way it was. I just don't agree that it makes the sport worse.

The vast majority (like 99.9%) of college champions have had zero or one loss. That percentage may fall to 95% with the expanded playoff. I don't view that as a bad thing.


It's a bad thing because now you've made regular season games lost their meaning more than the 4 playoff already had.

I remember years where even with the 4 team playoff it didn't even matter if Alabama lost the SECCG. It didn't matter when Georgia lost the SECCG in 2021 either.

It's one thing when there are on occasion 3 teams with a legitimate claim so you have a 4 team playoff. It's a trade off for reason. But you've only extended the bad parts without any justification for it, other than the claim of more meaningful games at the end of the year, which isn't even true as I've just highlighted. You've actually removed meaningful games.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15054 posts
Posted on 9/27/24 at 6:16 pm to
College football was getting stale. If you weren’t:

Bama
UGA
Mich
Ohio St
Clemson

You didn’t really have a chance. This bring so many more teams into the picture. Fans of those schools hate it. Everyone else loves it. It’s that simple.
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