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re: Maybe it wasn’t all Tommy Rees

Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:16 am to
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but running wise it's not even close


What exactly are we basing this on? Blake has a better career ypc, and a faster official 40 time. I know everyone believes Milroe is the fastest guy to ever play football, but his fastest recorded 40 is 4.60. Maybe he's gotten faster since then, but it's very unlikely he's A LOT faster than that. His top end speed might be faster than Blake's. He also has had terrible vision in his running in the past.

If you think he's a better runner, fine. But saying it isn't even close is horseshite.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:25 am to
Kiffin knew how to dial up plays for Sims. The one game where he stunk it up though was the playoff game vs Ohio State. Henry was running wild and we were up 21-6. Kiffin started calling pass plays and we wound up with a couple of picks and lost the game.
This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 8:35 am
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
1457 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:35 am to
Sims was more like a RB with the ability to change directions and juke.

Milroe is more like Matt Jones from Arkansas back in the day. He's got straight line speed but isn't going to break any ankles.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 8:49 am to
Jones was 6'6" and about 235. Wound up playing receiver in the NFL.

This post was edited on 9/13/24 at 8:50 am
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 9/13/24 at 12:18 pm to
Bama has to get the running game going and asap. If you can run it successfully, that should take some pressure off the QB.

This game will show our weaknesses and strengths from the players and this coaching staff.

Bama has to win this game!

Talking is over.

Posted by BasedCrimson
Member since Jun 2024
617 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 12:19 am to
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but his fastest recorded 40 is 4.60

That time is bullshite.

If you can take the ball from behind the LOS, and take it 80 yards, untouched to the house vs. an SEC defense, you run AT LEAST a 4.4.

And the reason people are saying Ty Simpson isn't close to Milroe's running ability is because he isn't.

Milroe has NFL RB speed. It's a different ballgame.


Look at him outrun an SEC CB
Nothing against Ty Simpson, but he'd pick up about 15 yards on the same play.
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 12:28 am
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
2556 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 1:47 am to
It’s hilarious that people try to make Ty out to be some QB that runs a 4.8. Did we forget about the multiple long runs he’s had?…

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He doesn’t have the top end speed of Milroe but he’s not far behind and he’s also shown to be much better at knowing when to run.

It’s like comparing Bryce to Milroe. Bryce was a way better runner because he knew when and how to use his legs. Half of Milroe’s breakaway runs are either QB powers or him flipping a coin between a thirty yard sack or a first down

Hell Bryce averaged more yards per carry than Milroe even with his atrocious line simply because he wasn’t taking stupid TFL/sacks
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 1:49 am
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9236 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:05 am to
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Milroe is more like Matt Jones from Arkansas back in the day. He's got straight line speed but isn't going to break any ankles


Milroe doesn’t break any ankles huh? Do you watch Alabama football?
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21847 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:30 am to
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That time is bullshite.


It's what he ran. How is that bullshite?

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If you can take the ball from behind the LOS, and take it 80 yards, untouched to the house vs. an SEC defense, you run AT LEAST a 4.4.


You see RB's in the 4.5 range do it all the time. It's all about angles and the fact that 4.5 is fast. So, your made-up assertion is false.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21847 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:34 am to
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And the reason people are saying Ty Simpson isn't close to Milroe's running ability is because he isn't.



We were discussing Blake Sims, not Ty. But, way to keep up.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1924 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 4:33 pm to
Milroe was reported to be one of the fastest players overall on the team and there's multiple guys who run high 4.4s and lesser on the team so that is not far fetched to believe he isn't at least in 4.4s. Also, you can watch the games he played LSU last year especially and against Texas A&M in 2022 and you can see he is well beyond a 4.60. I believe Sims is a good runner in his own right but his overall speed and shiftiness isn't touching Milroe in my opinion.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
3233 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:41 pm to
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Sims is a good runner in his own right but his overall speed and shiftiness isn't touching Milroe in my opinion.


Milroe is faster but man Blake was way shiftier. Jalen can be shifty at times but Blake would put guys on skates.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1924 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 4:35 pm to
I wouldn't necessarily disagree with that. I can see where you coming from with that argument
Posted by BasedCrimson
Member since Jun 2024
617 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:02 pm to
I think it's CRAZYYY that people are trying to downplay Milroe's running ability.

Criticize his passing all you want, but this man is the fastest, most dangerous runner Alabama has ever had at QB. Period.

If you won't admit that you're just a hater
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103251 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:39 pm to
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That time is bullshite.


It's technically not made up, it's just that it was recorded when he was a 16 year old sophomore on a wet track at a Regional The Opening.

He's clearly not a 4.6 guy in any way - both per your eyes and per metrics that have clocked him in games at Alabama.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103251 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:42 pm to
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He doesn’t have the top end speed of Milroe but he’s not far behind and he’s also shown to be much better at knowing when to run.


Ty is a very nice athlete who runs pretty well and runs with some strength - much like Jake Coker did. He is not anywhere close to the same level of pure straight line speed and ability to go from 0 to 100 that Milroe has. That's just silly.

Jalen showed at the end of last year and so far this year that when coaches call QB runs he is an absolute sledgehammer. He's as good as anybody in the country on designed runs. He is not a great scrambler - but that isn't because of his running ability, it's because of his brain and how long he waits before he decides to start running. He's also not a shifty ankle breaker.

What he does better than anybody is put his foot in the ground on called runs and get to max speed in about 3 steps. Those QB sweeps and powers that we've shown so far (and have about 15 different options off of that we haven't shown at all yet) are devastating.
This post was edited on 9/20/24 at 5:45 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103251 posts
Posted on 9/20/24 at 5:51 pm to
Not to mention, the creativity on the zone read that they just showed a little peek of at Wisconsin (RB turning into a blocker after not getting the read) along with motions back the other way off of it.............

Very much looking forward to seeing the alternate versions of it.
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