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Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:58 am
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:58 am
In terms of tenure at A&M, which one ranks higher?
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:01 am to
For fans of other teams?

Fisher

Got paid more and didn’t coach a Heisman winner, got blown out at home by Billy Napier , the plaque, etc
Posted by OilfieldTrashAg
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:04 am to
franchione
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Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:05 am to
What is Fisher's (or the Aggies) official excuse for him not being really any better than Sumlin was?
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:05 am to
Sumlin > Fisher at A&M

Don't see how anyone could see it any other way.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:05 am to
Possibly a bigger POS than both Sumlin & Fisher.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Sumlin > Fisher at A&M

Don't see how anyone could see it any other way.


When I tasted Meister Brau, I thought it was as good as Budweiser.

When I saw how much it cost, I liked it better than Budweiser.
Posted by Tarpon08
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:14 am to
Sumlin 51-26 with a Cotton Bowl, Peach Bowl, and Heisman

Fisher 45-25 with an Orange Bowl and No Heisman


It isn't even fricking close.
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:20 am to
The only thing Jimbo did better was to actually get wins against LSU.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:40 am to
quote:

In terms of tenure at A&M, which one ranks higher?


Both below John Sharp, who oversaw both.
Posted by KennesawTiger
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:43 am to
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When I tasted Meister Brau, I thought it was as good as Budweiser.

When I saw how much it cost, I liked it better than Budweiser.


I don't drink so I have no idea what you're talking about but
Posted by MAROON
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:43 am to
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Sumlin 51-26 with a Cotton Bowl, Peach Bowl, and gifted a Heisman trophy QB, and a future NFL Hall of Fame WR, and one of the greatest Offensive lines in CF history

Fisher 45-25 with an Orange Bowl and No Heisman


FIFY
Posted by Mr. Elvert
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:46 am to
Peak offseason thread
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:48 am to
quote:

one of the greatest Offensive lines in CF history

Really?
Posted by geoag58
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:56 am to
Remember reading comments by Florida State fans right after the hire. They called what Fishers tenure would look like at A&M almost to a tee.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:01 am to
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Sumlin 51-26 with a Cotton Bowl, Peach Bowl, and Heisman

Fisher 45-25 with an Orange Bowl and No Heisman


You need to do a like-for-like comparison. Kevin Sumlin only coached 40 conference games. Jimbo Fisher coached 48. Jimbo Fisher only coached 22 non-conference games. Kevin Sumlin coached 37.

The only way to do this is to compare like records.

First 40 conference games:

Jimbo Fisher: 26-14
Kevin Sumlin: 21-19

First 22 nonconference games:

Kevin Sumlin: 21-1 (Loss to Louisville)
Jimbo Fisher: 18-4 (Losses to Clemson twice, App State, and Miami)
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by kew48
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:03 am to
From a cost/benefit standpoint , I guess you would have to say Sumlin !
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:04 am to
quote:

From a cost/benefit standpoint , I guess you would have to say Sumlin !


You could make the case that $30 million (Sumlin's buyout in 2017) in 2017 dollars is > $76 million in 2023 dollars.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 11:05 am
Posted by MAROON
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:26 am to
quote:


quote:
one of the greatest Offensive lines in CF history

Really?


Luke Joekel - NFL first round draft pick
Mike Mathews - NFL first round draft pick
Cedric Ogbuehi - NFL first round draft pick
Jarvis Harrison - NFL fifth round draft pick
Patrick Lewis - NFL - five seasons

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 11:30 am to
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Luke Joekel - NFL first round draft pick
Mike Mathews - NFL first round draft pick
Cedric Ogbuehi - NFL first round draft pick
Jarvis Harrison - NFL fifth round draft pick
Patrick Lewis - NFL - five seasons


That doesn't make it one of the greatest offensive lines in College Football history. That makes it an extremely talented roster.

A better argument would be that every starter on the 2012 offense was drafted.
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